Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[Kincard]

My memory fails me, but my LS mate tells me we did not have any deaths on the fourth floor during our first run there. If I recall correctly, we didn't get the gear NM that spawned in the first room either. I think there's something about F4 and how you kill the monsters that causes NMs to pop.

[Darkmagi]

Neither of my runs got the gear NM, but we had cerb on both. I'll look at logger to see time in between kills of last gear sets and what killed them.

Not seeing anything blatantly abnormal, were all of your characters fully unlocked?

[Kincard]

Yeah, all fully unlocked, hard to not be when there like 80 charges on the lamp per floor lol

Unless they made it so using the lamp too much makes the NM not spawn, that would suck. >_>

[Darkmagi]

Yeah, didn't know if you had a mule that was slacking or something. Just checking for potential things that might make it not pop.

[Helel]

The arrapago wiki page seems correct for our run. We were able to clear both khims THF BLU RDM with ~8m remaining. Killed 2 of the gear ramparts as well (yay alex). AR2 seems like an excellent alex farming zone. Got 2 linen purses as well. NQ khim dropped skadi 45 hands. HQ khim dropped skadi 45 head x2. Much easier zone than SSR2 imo.

Killed chariots first then rampart as was suggested on wiki (on floor before the boss).

[Byrthnoth]

SSR run, things of note:
* We killed a Floor 1 (West side, I think) - THF
* Floor 2 Ashu Talif - PLD : We cleared the central area of fomor, but there were still Ramparts up there.
* Floor 3 Psychflayer (killed one rampart and the Stationary was up? Might have been up before?) -> LAC (we only had to kill one Chariot to pop it, North-east I think?)
* Floor 4 - We killed 3 Ramparts worth of gears and the Central rampart in the big room that pops Chariots, then skipped to the Dvergr : Ate's Sollerets
* Floor 5 - Bloodthirsty Dvergr : Namru's Jubbah x2 + Linen

[macross]

are you clearing both sides of floor3 of gears?

[NynJa]

SSR run, things of note:

How many ramparts did you kill?

[Slycer]

No idea what exactly we did, but we got NQ and HQ Cerb. Maybe someone can discern something from the full run details as compared to the others:

bhaf. General theory here is clearly kill as little as possible on early floors. You just want to kill one of everything to unlock those options from the lamp menu on next floor (lamps on F2, F3 give you like 10x the number of non-NM monster kills from prior floor in unlocks).

East

1st room Fly - head/neck, ear/ring, back/waist
2nd room Fly

Mad Bomber rooms - Black Pudding leg/foot, body, hand

Room north of J-8

Moblin Armsman Weapon, Range, Body

Nex tbig open room

Moblin Armsman

NM pops in I-7
Throat Tearer - Ritual x1

Last room

Dahak - HP, MP

Smouldering Dahak (open door after killing Dahak)
Ritualistic x1


F2
60 unlocks

SE corner of center: Troll Stoneworker (JA, Sub, DEX)
SW corner: Troll Smelter (JA, SJ, AGI)
NE: Troll Cameist (Magic, MND, SJ)
NW: Troll Gemologist (Magic, VIT, SJ)

N (center): Troll Occultist - Ritual x2. Pops after opening door, don't need to kill everything first.

East: Troll Lapidarist - (Magic, STR, SJ)

NE large room - Troll Spellbinder (RDM NM, Chainspell. tutelary x1)


F3

Room 1: Archaic Gear x2
Room 2: Archaic Gear x3
N Big room: Archaic Gear x6
Center room: Archaic Gear x3
Center west room: Archaic Gear x3
Big west room: Archaic Gear x3 -> Archaic Rampart
Archaic Rampart -> Archaic Gears x8 (unlock all pathos)

East side identical. Cleared everything on both sides. Randomly tried killing both east and west rampart at the same time. Didn't do anything obvious.

F4 east

1st room empty
2nd room 2 gear (killed close to the same time) -> gear NM (2x ritual)
3rd room empty
Big room: Long Bowed Chariot
1st/2nd room after LBC: Acrolith
Acrolith NM in 2nd room afte rkilling 2nd (ritual x2, tutelary)

Connecting Center room: Archaic Gears x3 -> Ramp -> Cerb (Namru Dastanas)

HQ Cerb Namru Dastanas, Idi's Mask, Linen

[Kincard]

For the record, I've had the Dahak NM on F1 drop both Ritualistic and Tutelary.

Hm, a lot of you seem to be going purely east route? Maybe that makes a difference somehow? That would be odd though, since my first run we went purely west route. Second run we went East, West, East, East, and I think we only had 2 gears in the very last room where the NQ Cerb spawns. I'll try pure east route tomorrow.

[Orangeknight]

No idea what exactly we did, but we got NQ and HQ Cerb. Maybe someone can discern something from the full run details as compared to the others:

bhaf. General theory here is clearly kill as little as possible on early floors. You just want to kill one of everything to unlock those options from the lamp menu on next floor (lamps on F2, F3 give you like 10x the number of non-NM monster kills from prior floor in unlocks).

East

1st room Fly - head/neck, ear/ring, back/waist
2nd room Fly

Mad Bomber rooms - Black Pudding leg/foot, body, hand

Room north of J-8

Moblin Armsman Weapon, Range, Body

Nex tbig open room

Moblin Armsman

NM pops in I-7
Throat Tearer - Ritual x1

Last room

Dahak - HP, MP

Smouldering Dahak (open door after killing Dahak)
Ritualistic x1


F2
60 unlocks

SE corner of center: Troll Stoneworker (JA, Sub, DEX)
SW corner: Troll Smelter (JA, SJ, AGI)
NE: Troll Cameist (Magic, MND, SJ)
NW: Troll Gemologist (Magic, VIT, SJ)

N (center): Troll Occultist - Ritual x2. Pops after opening door, don't need to kill everything first.

East: Troll Lapidarist - (Magic, STR, SJ)

NE large room - Troll Spellbinder (RDM NM, Chainspell. tutelary x1)


F3

Room 1: Archaic Gear x2
Room 2: Archaic Gear x3
N Big room: Archaic Gear x6
Center room: Archaic Gear x3
Center west room: Archaic Gear x3
Big west room: Archaic Gear x3 -> Archaic Rampart
Archaic Rampart -> Archaic Gears x8 (unlock all pathos)

East side identical. Cleared everything on both sides. Randomly tried killing both east and west rampart at the same time. Didn't do anything obvious.

F4 east

1st room empty
2nd room 2 gear (killed close to the same time) -> gear NM (2x ritual)
3rd room empty
Big room: Long Bowed Chariot
1st/2nd room after LBC: Acrolith
Acrolith NM in 2nd room afte rkilling 2nd (ritual x2, tutelary)

Connecting Center room: Archaic Gears x3 -> Ramp -> Cerb (Namru Dastanas)

HQ Cerb Namru Dastanas, Idi's Mask, Linen

Followed this pretty much EXACTLY. On Floor3 we split up and sent one goup west, one east. Killed ramparts as closely as possible and killed the reinforcements. After we killed the ramparts/reinforcements, we had 2-3 additional gears pop on the east side only. Went up and didnt get the additional gear NM to pop in the second room, but got the acrolith. Rampart popped in the final room after killing the triple gears, killed cerberus and got 45 ares head / linen pouch. Go up and kill HQ cerberus with 10 min remaining, got marduk 45 hands/legs (namru's dastanas/shalwar)

P.S. Our setup was BLU WHM THF DRK DRK (one apoc, one ragnarok.)

::edit:: We also got Tutelary and Ritual both from the popped Acrolith.

[macross]

I went f1 east, gobo nm did mighty strikes, got ritualistic x 1
dahak nm, drop 1x ritual

2nd floor got 2x ritual from NM drk troll
sw hunter got 2x primacy

3rd floor cleared both gear rooms went up, no nms, 27 alex.

went up east side, gear NM drop 1x ritual

LBC nothning

Timed out on 2nd acrolith

so 5 ritual, 2 primal on my run.

was drk thf whm, gotta figure out how to kill faster, 2 runs now haven't gotten to boss hehe.

[Darkmagi]

I went f1 east, gobo nm did mighty strikes, got ritualistic x 1
dahak nm, drop 1x ritual

2nd floor got 2x ritual from NM drk troll
sw hunter got 2x primacy

3rd floor cleared both gear rooms went up, no nms, 27 alex.

went up east side, gear NM drop 1x ritual

LBC nothning

Timed out on 2nd acrolith

so 5 ritual, 2 primal on my run.

was drk thf whm, gotta figure out how to kill faster, 2 runs now haven't gotten to boss hehe.

I take whm mnk brd(90 harp mule) and thf or bst and full clear without any danger of timing out. We do the west path fwiw. Successfully popped the 4f gear nm today, we tried killing the 2 gears at once, and it worked. Possibly related?

[Aja]

Compiled boss drops so far:

Hydra (NQ): Genta Kabuto, Namru's Crackows, Ate's Gauntlets, Neit's Cuffs

We got Idi's Trousers from the first NQ Hydra we killed.

[Byrthnoth]

FFXIDB was updated yesterday and now records things properly:
http://www.ffxidb.com/zones/75/smouldering-dahak

In a few days we should know what the monsters drop.

[Arthars]

afaik, according to all reports here, SSR NQ and HQ bosses dropped the entire usu 45 set

safe to say all zones can drop all type of 45 armor, just need them to load on the 1-2 slots on the bosses

plans are zone specific tho

[Protey]

update for wiki: SSRII : psycheflayers on 3F north unlock weapons and ranged.

Dvergr has dropped ares body.

[Slycer]

For science, maybe someone should try not killing those two gears in the first room on Bhaf 4F and see if Gear NM doesn't pop. I'll see if I can get my group to test it next time we go to Bhaf, but I don't know when that will be.

[Slycer]

Since there are 25 pieces of armor and each area clearly drops more than 6-7, I'm guessing each armor drops from two kinds of bosses, which would mean each boss has a pool of 12 or 13 drops. I'm assuming the NQ and HQ bosses have identical pools, but that remains to be confirmed. I don't think every boss drops every armor because I'm seeing a lot more repeat drops than new drops at this point for bosses where we already have 9 or 10 drops recorded.

[NynJa]

Did Arra again today, cleared all chariots before engaging rampart, and got NQ khim.

Has anyone killed all chariots before rampart and wound up without khim?