Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[Kogenta]

Is the linen a 100% drop from the last floor boss? I see a lot of reports about people getting it

[Aja]

No linen from our ZR run. Also was manually dualboxing and kinda drunk so I didn't have my armlets or af3+2 feet on fulltime like I normally do for Salvage now.

[Karbuncle]

Silver Sea Remnants:
Group: 99Mandau THF, Vereth/Spharai MNK, WHM(Dual), WHM(A Person!)
Things to Note: Made it to boss with ~8 Minutes, Despite Disconnected on the first damn mob for about 10 Minutes due to Internet deciding it wanted to throw a tantrum. Lost to boss, but would have likely won if our Second (non-boxed) WHM Had not DC'd the instant we began fighting. Only reason we died with a Dual Boxed WHM is because a Lovely Cackle > Aero V which blew our MNK up, and as a THF DNC, I didnt last too much longer with a Well placed Magical explosion.
Estimation: Can probably be Trio'd easily while still sidetracking some of the lesser NMs. Very low man Friendly.

Floor 1:
*Normal Enemies: Qiqirn x2, Imp x4, Doom x2. Only pop one set Each rampart.
*Notable NMs: Voracious Carrion, Seafarer Piliroon.

*Voracious Carrion: Spawned in room (G-9). Killed 1 Rampart Leading up to Room. Rampart at G-9 popped Rampart that Spawned NM in same Room. NM Hit Unbuffed THF for roughly 290~ Damage. Protect Lowered damage received significantly due to me being pretty naked. Used typical Doom TP Moves for average damage. Was not a threat. - Speculate It could Pop On Either of the two Off-shot rooms similar to Mad Bomber. (We Did Open door before backtracking to this area)
-Drops: Primacy Plans, Cotton Purse.

*Seafarer Piliroon - (Rough)Location (F-10) - Did not get this one to spawn. Avoided Ramparts in Previous room. Ramparts in (G-8) Likely required to pop this NM's Rampart.

Floor 2:
*Normal Enemies: Ashu Talif Crew, MNK, PLD, DRK, RDM, THF, BLM
*Notable NMs: Stoneplate Ghalimad - Used Invincible at roughly 53%. Rampart to Spawn him popped after clearing Ramparts in the room. Has a decent amount of Defense and Semi-High HP. Typical Fomor TP moves, Nothing Special outside of that.
-Drops: Tutelary Plan x2

Floor 3
*Normal Enemies: Ramparts, Gears, Chariots
*Notable NMs: Long-Armed Chariot - Rampart for this NM Spawned after clearing all 4 Ramparts in F/G-8 room. Pretty easy fight. Normal Chariot TP Moves, Average DEF. did not attempt Brain-Jack. Medium amount of HP.
-Drops: Tutelary Plan x1, Primacy Plan x1.

Floor 4
*Skipped all Enemies until Second to Final Room where Dvergr Rampart was up.
*Notable NM: Dvergr.
-Rampart was up even though we skipped all Enemies. NM Insta-Cast or Near-Insta-Casts all Spells. Had access to AoE Debuffs, and Single/AoE Target Spells up to T5 Spells. Spells did not hit particular hard, Should be easy for any group to handle with Shell V and a half-way Devent healer.
-Drops: Ate's Sollerets, Neit's Crown.

Floor 5
*BOSS FLO
*Ran up to Boss, Prep'd Fight, WHM DC'd, Suicide ran it and got it to 80% Before a Cackle > 2.3k Aero V killed our MNK. Died slowly.

[Asymptotic]

In case this hasn't been put in one place yet:



New Head: LV45 Head + 10 Plans + 15 Mythril
New Body: LV45 Body + 12 Plans + 15 Mythril
New Hands: LV45 Hands + 12 Plans + 15 Mythril
New Legs: LV45 Legs + 12 Plans + 15 Mythril
New Feet: LV45 Feet + 10 Plans + 15 Mythril

Old+1 Head: LV45 Head + 40 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces
Old+1 Body: LV45 Body + 50 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces
Old+1 Hands: LV45 Hands + 45 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces
Old +1 Legs: LV45 Hands + 45 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces
Old +1 Feet: : LV45 Feet + 40 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces

+1s also require the LV75 base armor in addition to the other materials.

[NynJa]

Old +1 Feet: : LV45 Feet + 49 Plans + 15 Gold Pieces

49?

[Asymptotic]

40* lol

Also, NQ Hydra in Zhayolm dropped Idi's Jerkin (Skadi 45)

[Jem]

So you don't need the NQ versions to get the +1? Someone mentioned that you didn't yesterday followed by someone later saying you did.

[Cairthenn]

You don't need the Level 75 versions to get the items that arent listed as "+1". You need both the 45 and the 75 to get the gear listed as "+1".

[Asymptotic]

I should have made that more clear, I just thought it was implied. I'll edit it.

[Jem]

Yeah, sorry. I have been telling everyone who asked me that you needed the NQ's as it seemed logical but a few people have missed that part off when listing the required mats so had me second guessing myself.

It seems weird to me that the +1's need more plans/coins without being obviously better (in some cases).

[Eldelphia]

It seems weird to me that the +1's need more plans/coins without being obviously better (in some cases).

Most of the gear I'm interested in, the +1's far outstrip the new gear tbh.

[Jem]

Most of the gear I'm interested in, the +1's far outstrip the new gear tbh.

Well I've only really looked at Skadi/Ares gear tbh. The mage stuff, whilst probably good, doesn't interest me because idc about my mage jobs. Same with my SAM.

Skadi Hands: DEF:32 STR+8 AGI+8 Attack+12 Ranged Attack+12 Haste+4% Pet: Haste+3%
Sigyn Hands: DEF:31 STR+8 AGI+8 Ranged Accuracy+12 Ranged Attack+12 Marksmanship skill +6 Enmity-5

Skadi Feet: DEF:30 STR+5 VIT+5 Accuracy+7 Ranged Accuracy+7 Increases movement speed
Sigyn Feet: DEF:29 STR+7 DEX+7 VIT+7 AGI+7 Evasion+8 Haste+4% Pet: Evasion+5

Sigyn strike me as better in both scenarios although they are obviously focused on different uses.

The same for Ares/Kers gear, they are situationally useful but the Ares set doesn't strike me as any more useful than Kers.

[NynJa]

I think it'll have to depend if SE modified the set bonus

[Aja]

ZR again

only difference, we went east>north on floor3. Killed Poroggo Comtesse, dropped Bloodshed Plan. Boss floor, we tried left foot at start, still used Pyric Bulwark. Single drop, only Namru's Crackows, no linen again. About 12 min left in zone.

[Helel]

We went up the CC side and he popped for us. It was from the rampart in the room where the East and West path meet up before the porter room up to the next floor. Rampart was up against the back wall.

Did you kill all Ramparts/pops on the way to porter? If not, that could be it. We killed everything. Killing Ramps before reinforcements doesn't seem to be an issue either as we did that for a few and it was still there for us.

That must be it then. We only killed a few of the ramparts because I hadn't written down our entry time. Turns out we got the 10m warning after the boss was killed.

So make sure you kill all ramparts on SSR 4th floor if you want HQ boss.

[Jem]

That must be it then. We only killed a few of the ramparts because I hadn't written down our entry time. Turns out we got the 10m warning after the boss was killed.

So make sure you kill all ramparts on SSR 4th floor if you want HQ boss.

Reading Karbuncle's post earlier, it looks like the Dvergr was on 4F for them even though they killed nothing. So err I guess

* Killing all 4F is not a pop condition if there is one or no pop condition
* You may have just ran past it (Rampart is tucked against the back wall in a room where no enemies popped in old salvage)
* It glitched for you and no popped

[Djohn]

So, what I gather from reading the thread so far is that NQ bosses can be encountered on the penultimate floor and killing them is required to spawn the HQ boss on the final floor, otherwise it will just be NQ. Both bosses can drop linen pouches. Drop rate from NQ is not that great (maybe comparable to old bosses?), but drop rate from HQ seems very high, maybe 100%? Has anyone so far actually killed HQ and not gotten the pouch? It may not be raining alexandrite, but 1 guaranteed linen with a chance for 2 wouldn't be too shabby considering that people will actually be farming for gear again.

[Helel]

Reading Karbuncle's post earlier, it looks like the Dvergr was on 4F for them even though they killed nothing. So err I guess

* Killing all 4F is not a pop condition if there is one or no pop condition
* You may have just ran past it (Rampart is tucked against the back wall in a room where no enemies popped in old salvage)
* It glitched for you and no popped

Pretty sure I know where you mean. I guess I ran past it. Strange requirement for the HQ boss. It's not like they take very long to kill, and time certainly isn't an issue if you can skip every rampart.

Edit: oh the glitch comment reminds me... when my mule's ability restriction was lifted, he could no longer cast any spells... I had to relog and then it was fine. Abilities didn't work either.

[Jem]

Similar thing happened to me with JA's. They unlocked but it wouldn't let me use them. Tried using a lamp but it said I couldn't as they were already unlocked. Tried relogging and that didn't help. Then 10 mins later they were randomly useable (I kept trying every 30 secs or so), not sure what caused it, maybe another unlock happening.

Same thing happened with somebodies Legs/Feet unlock too. It was porting up that fixed it for them.

[mdkuser]

If you don't choose pathos well to kill quickly early on in Bhaflau you will get screwed by the random nature of the drops.

In fact, I would say the pathos random nature is better for lowman.

Simple approach seems best again for this event so far... Bring strong DD and whm, give them all unlocks at beginng and you are 1/2 way there.. if you screw it up... like I did first run.. you'll have brd w/ weapon while dd's don't... and takes FOREVER to kill anything and the run fails.

Have you done salvage at level 75 cap? It was always a bad idea
to bring more than 6. at 99 cap it is a bad idea to bring more than 3, not only due to unlocks but due to treasure drops.