Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[Protey]

The info I wrote is based on FFXIDB.com, there's like 400 of each boss kill, so it should be pretty accurate. Heads/feet are always at the bottom of HQ lists and top of NQ lists, legs/body are always at the top of HQ lists and bottom of NQ lists, and hands are always spread around, nearer to the top of both lists.

before you wrote hands were in the middle, but for HQ cerb it is the most abundant drop (marduk hands anyway). Morri and Ares head are not near the bottom on HQ cerb. Nor is Morri head near the bottom on HQ Dvergr. Ares body is not near the top on HQ Dvergr.

Be careful when you say "always" =P

[Tifrece]

The wording on BG-wiki is a bit weird. Are plans consumed when upgrading salvage pieces? Or does trading plans unlock different tiers of obtainable gear?

If plans are consumed, it seems very difficult to complete any of these sets.

[Magitek]

They're consumed, and it's not that hard really. Just takes time more than anything, and luck with getting 45s. I'm already 2/5 on Usu +1 (85 Ritualistic plans) and I think I've been spamming BR2 for 2 weeks or so, maybe? A lot of my runs were without TH also... I was getting 9-10 plans a run when I was bringing a THF, but now I average 5-6.

[NynJa]

The wording on BG-wiki is a bit weird. Are plans consumed when upgrading salvage pieces? Or does trading plans unlock different tiers of obtainable gear?

If plans are consumed, it seems very difficult to complete any of these sets.

U mean u cant go 5/5 on 3 chars in 2 weeks? Oh my god

[Magitek]

I don't think I've ever gotten spellcasting unlocked off a single gear, but I know for sure they remove stats + HP/MP. I can't really say because I usually unlock them from initial rune or randomly from trolls / 3rd floor rune.

Didn't get gear again today, nothing really too different from my last run except I aggroed 0 gears on floor 3. I claimed the 4th floor gear pair with voke/chi blast (went MNK/WAR today). Killed them pretty quickly, they both only got off one WS each (first one got off artificial gravity, and second got off rail cannon). They both unlocked dex/mnd for 2 of my characters. My initial rune gave me crappy unlocks, didn't get STR or MND but 2 VIT, so I didn't get any STR unlock until the triple gears before NQ cerb rampart.

[Slycer]

The wording on BG-wiki is a bit weird. Are plans consumed when upgrading salvage pieces? Or does trading plans unlock different tiers of obtainable gear?

If plans are consumed, it seems very difficult to complete any of these sets.

Time-consuming sure, but not very difficult. And yeah, they are consumed. You can get about 8 plans per run, on average, so you're talking 5-6 runs for one piece for one person. That's a month for a full set for one person, really not so bad. Assuming you rotate and you're in a small group of, say, 4 people, you're looking at 4 months for each of you to get a complete set, and since you complete the pieces one by one and many of them are individually good, you're getting rewarded along the way. And if you want any of the pieces from the new sets (not +1), you're talking less than 2 runs to make one of those.

[Protey]

Time-consuming sure, but not very difficult. And yeah, they are consumed. You can get about 8 plans per run, on average, so you're talking 5-6 runs for one piece for one person. That's a month for a full set for one person, really not so bad. Assuming you rotate and you're in a small group of, say, 4 people, you're looking at 4 months for each of you to get a complete set, and since you complete the pieces one by one and many of them are individually good, you're getting rewarded along the way. And if you want any of the pieces from the new sets (not +1), you're talking less than 2 runs to make one of those.

or just tri-box and get sets even faster! ^^d

[Protey]

yea, got everything unlocked but spellcasting. o well, not like my thf/dnc or mnk/war needed it. good for knowledge though.

o, and got yet another friggin marduk hands.

[Slycer]

It's windsday right now and everything is double aggro/link range in SSRII. Not sure if this is normal for Windsday or what (no weather).

[Diomer]

Quick questions that were most likely already answered, but can you pop both the East and West Archaic Gears NMs from the Diremite/Pug Rampart on ZR2 Floor 3? Also, is it known yet why the gear NM on floor 2 doesn't always pop when you clear the room you port up in before opening the door? Didn't have it on either run today clearing SE room, but had it on my 1st run a week ago.

[Aja]

Lamia Dancer on 4F of ARII also unlock MP. I can't edit the wiki.

[Nekradarken]

Quick questions that were most likely already answered, but can you pop both the East and West Archaic Gears NMs from the Diremite/Pug Rampart on ZR2 Floor 3? Also, is it known yet why the gear NM on floor 2 doesn't always pop when you clear the room you port up in before opening the door? Didn't have it on either run today clearing SE room, but had it on my 1st run a week ago.

You can only pop 1 of the NMs on floor3. In one of my ZR2 run, the NM on floor3 did not pop when I arrived at floor3 after 30 mins. Maybe the floor2 NM also has a timing condition?

[Nitecon]

Just did a BR2 run, sam war whm brd. War was using Tomahawk on NQ cerb and it wasn't affecting the -DT. Couldn't find any clarification of this in the thread or on the bgwiki page, is someone else able to verify?

[Lyltia]

I took a WAR once and Tomahawk was very ineffective; how ineffective I'm not sure, as I was the WHM, but I can tell you that it took us ~20min to get NQ cerb down to 3% and time out.

[Taint]

I took a WAR once and Tomahawk was very ineffective; how ineffective I'm not sure, as I was the WHM, but I can tell you that it took us ~20min to get NQ cerb down to 3% and time out.

Wow 20min....

I guess Mura/Twilight/Formless is the way to handle him. Mura SAM makes him a 2-3min fight tops.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah, fight is about 3min on mnk with 5/5 formless.

[Obsidian]

Just did a BR2 run, sam war whm brd. War was using Tomahawk on NQ cerb and it wasn't affecting the -DT. Couldn't find any clarification of this in the thread or on the bgwiki page, is someone else able to verify?

I was under the impression Tomahawk only affects resistances, not straight damage reductions like Cerberus or Ovni.

[Darkmagi]

Weapon resistances only.

[NynJa]

Yeah, fight is about 3min on mnk with 5/5 formless.

Is that with Kaustra and/or a bard? Because it takes me about 6-7 MNK THF WHM

[Obsidian]

Is that with Kaustra and/or a bard? Because it takes me about 6-7 MNK THF WHM

MNK NIN/THF WHM, Cerberus takes probably 5 minutes, Seether goes down before Impetus and Berserk are back up (I Hundred Fists around 30%). I could speed up both fights a bit if I could be bothered to finish augmenting my melee cyclas.