Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[NynJa]

Mandau95/Thok(fire)/Raiders
****/Rancor/Brutal/Suppa
****/*****/Epona/Rajas
Atheling/Twilight/****/****

hume thf/dnc, no food, Dynamis DC

AF3+2/Thaumas x4
Melee DPS 123.887
Overall DPS 191.035

Skadi+1 Head/Body, Thaumas x3
Melee DPS 121.319
Overall DPS 187.464

AF3+2, Skadi+2 Bd/Hn, Thaumas x2
Melee DPS 124.705
Overall DPS 190.442

Skadi+1 Hd/Bd/Hn, Thaumas x2
Melee DPS 128.803
Overall DPS 195.049

4/5 Skadi+1 + thaumas ft
Melee DPS 127.472
Overall DPS 196.211

5/5 Skadi+1
Melee DPS 125.994
Overall DPS 194.120


Do those numbers look right? presuming +3 crit rate per extra piece instead of Sylow's 4 (can you retest, it seems odd for Skadi to be 4 when everything else is 3)

[Cairthenn]

He was wrong, it is 3. I told him to hit more things but he wouldn't listen! So I did it instead.

[TheDangerousDave]

Would the 5/5 Skadi set be diminished for those of us without a legendary dagger and offhanding corcus?

[Magitek]

FYI, the JP wikis have "kill small gear then large ?" as the pop condition (with the question mark) for 4F east gear. I'm not sure if that was based on my post above or whether it was confirmed independently, though. I did not check before my run so I have no idea.

@macross, for the original salvage gear the set bonuses were all the same (whatever stat +5), so I'm guessing they're all the same here. for whatever the breakdown is. Funny thing about Usu+1 is that if it goes 3/6/9/12, you're literally at the haste cap with just the five pieces in the set.

We all know they came here to steal your idea. I'll give it a try today, I really hope this is the pop condition lol, I already threw in the white flag.

[Loziel]

Confirmed the Small > Big gear thing in bhaf works. GG SE, kept us puzzling on that one for a while

[Asymptotic]

He was wrong, it is 3. I told him to hit more things but he wouldn't listen! So I did it instead.

I *would* get 380 crits in a row at 2% chance
Why can' I get lucky when it benefits me? D:

[Protey]

yea, with 3% MAB for each additional piece, that makes morri +1 hands > nares hands. if my math is correct, ideal setup is nares head, morri+1 body/hands/feet, akasha chaps

[Slycer]

yea, with 3% MAB for each additional piece, that makes morri +1 hands > nares hands. if my math is correct, ideal setup is nares head, morri+1 body/hands/feet, akasha chaps

Yep, that's the best setup for BLM and SCH for sure for pure damage. I think RDM+2 Empyrean head beats out Nares on an individual piece basis, so you'd make that swap for RDM, but lolrdm. If for some reason they add more resisty stuff in the future where magic accuracy matters, Morri+1 hands offer a ridiculous improvement over Nares hands, and you could still keep BLM+2 body or SCH+2 body or whatever other good m.acc option you have.

[Magitek]

Confirmed the Small > Big gear thing in bhaf works. GG SE, kept us puzzling on that one for a while

Same, hope it's not a "glitch" and SE fixes their height so people who don't mod .dat names will have to play the 50/50 game!

[Riiaider]

2/2 On BF 4f East Gear via the 'small' > 'large' gear kill order.

Also I don't recall seeing it posted anywhere but people will still receive unlocks even if they are not in party. Friend and I each took a mule in and we dropped one to try and force gear to drop to the other three but the 4th still received an unlock out of party.

Edit: Also LBC did homing missle.. doesn't matter much but never saw it reported either.

[Aumaan_Kujata]

Can add one more datapoint to the small->large->NM thing working on the east side.

[calinz]

Has anyone confirmed West side gears being the same? We usually try to do a balanced Usu/Marduk/Morri run (killing the morri troll on 2nd floor).

[Volane]

Same, hope it's not a "glitch" and SE fixes their height so people who don't mod .dat names will have to play the 50/50 game!

Maybe I was just seeing things but gear 1 was floating lower than gear 2 while unaggroed/idle. Gonna test again today after JP midnight.

[Taint]

Has anyone confirmed West side gears being the same? We usually try to do a balanced Usu/Marduk/Morri run (killing the morri troll on 2nd floor).

West side is same time. We are 100% NM pop doing it that way.

[Slycer]

I dunno why people think it's a glitch - every other NM can be popped reliably, so it makes sense that there's a way to reliably pop this one too. Like I said before in this thread, I find it hard to believe that SE would be stupid enough (again) to make something "random" that can be so easily dat modded to get around, so I looked for some way of differentiating the gears and it turned out to be the most obvious thing (a visual difference between the two).

@Riiader - Not only do they not have to be in the party, but they will continue to be unlocked even if they DC'ed from the run or are dead (in which case you'll get all the unlocks at once when you reconnect or when you're raised). I assume this is to prevent people from logging out on purpose to force unlocks to one person or another.

@Taint - Thanks for confirming.

[macross]

Lol yeah, I tried to d/c a floor1 useless char and he got unlocks upon login.

[calinz]

Just killed west gears with no pop. They were both same size... lined up and slept. Posting screen after run.

Edit:
http://imgur.com/a/mQO9s

We did not kill them at same time. Killed the red one first.

[Slycer]

Just killed west gears with no pop. They were both same size... lined up and slept. Posting screen after run.

For what it's worth, one of the JP wikis still has "kill at the same time" as the spawn condition for the west (triple) gears.

[TheDangerousDave]

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Neit%27s_Pigaches Which drops them? Update Wiki please!

[JetEnduro]

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Neit%27s_Pigaches Which drops them? Update Wiki please!

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