Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[Obsidian]

Monsters in Salvage are spawned when you open doors and you can't open both doors, so you can't spawn both monsters.

If you use fillmode you can see it pop before you touch the door to the warp room.

[macross]

If you got back up tanks or can kite then do it the risky way and use counterstance. If you're duoing then yeah prob need to use it as you will run out of mp healing if you don't, unless you using bunch of meds to keep mp up.

Anyhow bhaf is super easy, I zoned into it on accident last night instead of zhay lol, and it was so relaxing and trivial compared to my 2 weeks farming zhay lately. 1/3 the kills required, fully geared from 2nd floor, gimpy boss etc.

When you start farming hydra strategies will prob need to change. I doubt I could do it duo with my mule healer anyhow. I'm sole DD so if I die runs over so yeah I'll turtle up to minimize the risk as much as I can.

[SargentRemora]

Anyone else unable to get the Gear NM on Floor 2 of Zhayolm to pop? Killing both Mamool and opening the door has failed to pop it twice.

[NynJa]

Thats arra...zhay u have to clear the room before the door, not the beastmen.

[Protey]

Thats arra...zhay u have to clear the room before the door, not the beastmen.

actually he was referring to zhay. he has to clear the room of mobs to include 2 mamool, then open the door.

[NynJa]

I know...I was saying that arra you just have to kill the two beastmen, in zhay you have to clear the entire room.

sorry, fucking iphone, I meant to say "not just the beastmen"

[NynJa]

what the fuck is up with silver sea ramparts? I try to farm shit with spare time, trying to pop acroliths...sometimes the ramparts wont link, and then randomly it'll become true sound and aggro my character instead of linking

[Asymptotic]

Survey says ... weather?

[NynJa]

3 runs in a row I coincidentally had ill timed weather changes? I'll keep an eye on it next time, no one else has noticed problems linking ramparts on 4f?

[Asymptotic]

I dunno, archaic machinery aggro/linking mechanics are influenced by weather in old salvage, so it's a good hypothesis.

[Obsidian]

Training gears past them usually worked for me.

[Yugl]

Popped Dvergr Rampart by skipping to his room after the Chariot rampart. DDs decided to defeat the rampart before he popped the NM though. Tried to run back and link ramparts, but they didn't link. When I ran next to them, only one of the three ramparts aggroed, so that may be the "true sound" rampart.

[Slycer]

3 runs in a row I coincidentally had ill timed weather changes? I'll keep an eye on it next time, no one else has noticed problems linking ramparts on 4f?

It's difficult to link them, I notice all the time. It's almost like they have a delayed or on/off aggro mechanic or something. I've had times where I run up to them and try to aggro and have to wait a good 5 seconds for them to notice me. BTW, in the room with the three ramparts (the last room), if you hug the wall, you can actually run behind them without aggroing. I use this a lot to link them because the pathing fucking sucks in that room with the column in the middle. The five Acrolith ramparts are all true sound (not just sound). The rest of the floor is just sound.

I've been wondering if it's even worth it to farm Acroliths, though, from that last room. Archaic Chariots always drop 1 Alex and seem to have a really high rate of 2 Alex. I don't think that compares very favorably against three 10% chances at 5~20.

[Arthars]

regarding acrolith... is it still true that you need to "break" them for the rare pouch to start dropping?

[Byrthnoth]

It has been shown that they can drop whether or not you break them. I break most of mine, so I can't really compare the two states as far as drop rate goes.

[NynJa]

dont think breaking them matters, I've noticed in Arrapago they fall apart easily, but in other areas they dont.

[Airenn]

Scherzo wont save you on hydra. The only thing it does that can potentially fuck you up is its triple attack, which scherzo wont protect you from. You'd be better off maxing your attack and getting those heads down, then switching to marches.

Don't know if this has been replied to but --

Scherzo really helps. Did the zone twice WHM BRD MNK THF and timed out first time. Had no real issues with Hydra being a douche, we just farmed all the Dires/Gears and ran out of time.

Skipped them this time and cleared it very easily.

Both times discoid boss was killed.

Formless Strikes does deal damage through the Physical shield.

[macross]

Maybe if you got a taru dd or something schezero might be good for hydra. Well schezero helps for chariot, but not boss.
But any DD + BRD + healer makes any salv zone a breeze.

Problem is formless strikes is 10 min reuse and he can do back to back to back pyric bulwarks. Drk can stun the bulwark or bash it, and swap a twilight scythe if it does get off anyways.

[Airenn]

True true. Just saw discussion on it and I know a few people on Carby were bantering about some info on that zone. We went prepared for a hard time, but it was surprisingly easy is all.

[NynJa]

How is scherzo gonna help on hydra? Afaik, attacks that consist of multiple attacks are not affected by scherzo (byrth confirmed it with an ig-alima triple attack?), and none of its TP moves are threatening on their own. Does being cursed adjust the scherzo threshold?