Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[NynJa]

Maybe like frogs? Kill a certain amount of ramparts/chariots/whatever to equal enough points to pop it.

No, I considered that but
I just did 1f QQ, 2f THF, 3f Flayer, no 4f Dverge
Slycer did 1fQQ, 3f Orobon, and got Dvergr on 4f.
But, he cleared a shitton of 4f mobs it seems.

[Slycer]

No, I considered that but
I just did 1f QQ, 2f THF, 3f Flayer, no 4f Dverge
Slycer did 1fQQ, 3f Orobon, and got Dvergr on 4f.
But, he cleared a shitton of 4f mobs it seems.

No, didn't clear anything on F4 except maybe 2 or 3 gears by the time I ran ahead and arrived at the rampart room where Dvergr pops and that Rampart was up. We cleared a lot of stuff on F1, though, way more than we needed to (we were just messing around looking for potential NMs or whatever).

To be more specific, I know we cleared the following:
F1: 11 ramparts and associated mobs (7 in earlier rooms, plus the 4 in the last room), plus rampart/NM qiqirn.
F2: Basically nothing, killed like 2 Ashu
F3: Rampart, 3 Orobons, Rampart, Orobon NM
F4: Rampart and a couple gears, Dvergr
F5: Bloodthirsty Dvergr

That's it, really, positive. Something like 16 Ramparts total killed (+/-1, but pretty sure it was 16), if anyone's thinking that has something to do with it.

Path we took was west on F1, southwest on F2, west port from F3 to F4.

[NynJa]

my run today:
1f- first rampart, 2 ramparts in the middle room, 4 ramparts in hammerblow room (all associated mobs), NM + rampart.
2f- 3 ramparts from central, 1 rampart east (all associated mobs), NM+rampart. Aggroed everything in 2f NE room, but just ported up
3f- 0 ramparts, 1 flayer NM + 3 NQ flayers.
4f- 2 ramparts, 6? gear's, opened door, no rampart, killed the pack of 3 ramparts before the door (2 chariot + acrolith), but rampart with dvergr didnt spawn.

12 ramparts before opening the door, 15 after opening door. path was west, north east, east

[Slycer]

All those people who were complaining about nothing to figure out need to come back here and help figure this out!

[Jem]

I have an idea what might be causing stuff to glitch out. My JA's have glitched out again today after briefly being useable, occured after being amnesia'ed by a Lamia. I think the same thing happened yesterday too from a Rampart. I am guessing it will unglitch when I next unlock something.

EDIT: Nvm, 100% a Spellcast issue. Works fine when I unload it and doesn't again if I reload it.

[Slycer]

Worth noting that there is a fifth Chigoe Stinger NM in the dats, possibly popped after defeating the other four? Not sure.

[Lyltia]

In regards to 4F Dvergr rampart pop conditions:

-On 4F, we killed the first two small rooms worth of mobs, pulled the central rampart in the CCC room that pops 3 Archaic Chariots; they went kinda hard on us, but we won, which is when i decided to just take us up.

-Previous floors... 1F we went west, 2F we went southeast, 3F east. killed the THF NM and the Orobon.

-I will add my vote onto SSR being unfriendly to smaller groups, although you need to bring the right jobs that aren't going to get completely fucked if pathos removal is unkind. Ashu Talif RDMs spamming t4 nukes is no fun, and everything has a ton of HP. That, and anyone advocating BRD for this event is seriously mistaken, especially in this zone.

[NynJa]

How many ramparts did you kill?

[Slycer]

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Arrapago_Remnants_II

Check it out, add/edit as necessary. Lots of missing info on the paths I didn't take. I know someone mentioned in this thread how they popped the Lamia NM, but I didn't really fully understand (think it was Byrth?), and I wasn't clear on which room it was in, so I didn't add the pop info. I assume Qutrub NM is on the opposite side of that floor (4F).

As with SSR, maps are just placeholders.

[Cairthenn]

Check it out, check it out, check it out, check it out~

[Slycer]

In regards to 4F Dvergr rampart pop conditions:

-On 4F, we killed the first two small rooms worth of mobs, pulled the central rampart in the CCC room that pops 3 Archaic Chariots; they went kinda hard on us, but we won, which is when i decided to just take us up.

-Previous floors... 1F we went west, 2F we went southeast, 3F east. killed the THF NM and the Orobon.

-I will add my vote onto SSR being unfriendly to smaller groups, although you need to bring the right jobs that aren't going to get completely fucked if pathos removal is unkind. Ashu Talif RDMs spamming t4 nukes is no fun, and everything has a ton of HP. That, and anyone advocating BRD for this event is seriously mistaken, especially in this zone.

Did you actually pop the Dvergr NM on F4 (the floor with the chariots and stuff, not the last boss floor)? You didn't mention it in the post so I'm not sure.

[Slycer]

Check it out, check it out, check it out, check it out~

Owned x3

[Jem]

Extra Arra info

On 3F we took East path, there was a random Acrolith in the middle of second room of Qutrubs that dropped plans (I think Umbrage).

In the final room 3F was 1 gear, we killed it and there was an additional gear in porter room that dropped Bloodshed Plans. I assume killing the gear caused this.

4F Clearing out the room of Lamias pops the Lamia NM

6F Armored Chariot can use Mortal Revolution (not like it's a major point but we didn't see LaC yesterday try Brainjack)

All other info matches.

[ccl]

Few BR II info:

Floor 1

West path has Wamouracampa +2-3 total
and on the mad bomber room both east and west there is a flying wamoura that drop body legs and one other I forgot
There is a Goblin NM at the end of path before both path cross that can drop plan got marduk and cotton(not 100%sure on cotton)

East path is
Fly on the path and black pudding on the room of mad bomber drop the same cell.
Also an NM before path cross, forgot what it drop, think usu.

At the room where path Cross, there is a dahak that drop HP + MP cell (be carefull of nullsong since hp will be low ect)
An nm dahak pop either after you killed or once you open the door not 100% sure.

2nd floor:

4 Troll instead of pudding that used to be there to pop ssr rampart, drop a random stat cell+ gear.
on 1st run I did, we killed them all 4 nothing seemed to pop then went SW and there was an NM that dropped usu plan X2
on 2nd run, didn't kill all 4, ran NE, not NM.

3rd Floor
Killed some gear, didn't manage to pop anything, nothing worth mentionning.

4th floor
Killed everything, 1st room had an "NM" archaic gear after we cleared on 1st run, didn't pop on 2nd run, same for other mob in the zone.
At the zone where both path cross, there are 3 triple gears, killing them pop a rampart that pop Cerberus, Tried to dispel spike, but the PDT/DT was still annoying, tomahawk and formless strike work for it. Dropped a Linen + the skadi head 45

Floor 5 boss

Cerberus Seether, seems to build DT too, can GOH below 50% (maybe anytime) but wasn't really damaging and Archon Flame below 25%.
Dropped Skadi Body 45 Mori Body 45 and a Linen.

IF you can bypass the PDT on both cerb (twilight scythe, Mura, Formless Strike, Tomahawk) this zone seems not hard at all to trio DD +thf+whm.

[Lyltia]

Did you actually pop the Dvergr NM on F4 (the floor with the chariots and stuff, not the last boss floor)? You didn't mention it in the post so I'm not sure.

Sorry I had mentioned it in a post last page; we popped but did not kill the 4F Dvergr, 5F was Bloodthirsty Dvergr, gave Moon Maven title to all but one member.

Give me a few and I'll parse the log file, see how many ramparts we killed~

[Vyvian]

So, do all of the 45 pieces drop off bosses, and the NMs are just for Plans, or do 45s drop off the NMs too? I realize its probably too soon to know where every 45 drops, but I was wondering if a trend was known.

[Eurell]

Taking some newer people into Salvage tonight. We're sure you can't get in without clearing the original zones first?

[NynJa]

So, do all of the 45 pieces drop off bosses, and the NMs are just for Plans, or do 45s drop off the NMs too? I realize its probably too soon to know where every 45 drops, but I was wondering if a trend was known.

This seems to be it.

[Helel]

Hmmm, I doubt dvergr guy is timed-based. I think we had similar time remaining as slycer. We got the 10 minute warning after killing the final boss on 5F. We killed two NMs on 1F, 2F THF QQ (actually wasn't that bad on BLU with pizza), we also killed every rampart in powderkeg room just in case but nothing popped, 3F orobon NM + chariot NM (gyro-gears side), 4F the triple chariot rampart and few ramparts spawning gears, 5F boss. So we ended up with 5 NMs total.

SSR isn't that bad with three people. BLU can whirl of rage all the mobs that pop from the ramparts. Dream flower is helpful too. The only dangerous part was when I linked two fomor ramparts in the powderkeg room.

[Slycer]

So, do all of the 45 pieces drop off bosses, and the NMs are just for Plans, or do 45s drop off the NMs too? I realize its probably too soon to know where every 45 drops, but I was wondering if a trend was known.

Bosses are 45s and Linens, NMs are papers and Cottons.