Salvage II - Slavage Harder

**Fake** · 2013-01-29 01:06

So what you're saying is trembling can do 4256 damage, lolk

**Karah** · 2013-01-29 01:13

It's right there, In the shot. Tping in mollusca BB arhat's +1s darkrings etc etc

**Fake** · 2013-01-29 01:19

Then you got caught in WS gear or something.

**Karah** · 2013-01-29 01:22

Originally Posted by Karah

It's right there, In the shot. Tping in mollusca BB arhat's +1s darkrings etc etc

Note, the bold.

**Fake** · 2013-01-29 01:23

And trembling can't do 4k damage

**Karah** · 2013-01-29 01:29

Screenshot disagrees~ but the point wasn't to argue it, was just to show. The previous tremblings only did maybe 500 top end.

Trembling can occasionally deal severe damage to one or more targets in range (1500+). < BG quote

Even if I was wearing WS gear, with a rancor collar (which i was -not-) it shouldn't have done 2100

It did what it did, not gonna bother arguing with you dood. Goin to bed matter of fact. But there it is.

**Fake** · 2013-01-29 01:32

Which is exactly why it can't do 4k, even if it did 500 damage on low end of range and just 1 hit landed that wasn't a crit. 3 crits landing on high end of range still wouldn't do 4k

**Darkmagi** · 2013-01-29 02:19

Your gear could have just not swapped fast enough, even if your gear gets switched while it's doing the move, it might not have registered on the servers.

**Yeager** · 2013-01-29 04:45

Has anyone noticed some lag issues post update?

My LS and I just had some major problems in SSR 2 with lag. Right away, as we entered, everyone in the group experienced a huge lag spike, with one member fully disconnecting and experienced difficulty logging back on. Other things that we noticed, one of our MNKs died because our WHM (who was also lagging) was saying it was taking 10 seconds or so just to get a cure to start casting. Another incident, our THF's HP was showing 0, but several members reported they saw her still alive and stabbing away for about 10-15 seconds before finally dropping dead. And one final thing that I had noticed, after curing our MNK from low HP, his HP would still show as low in the party status on the bottom right (58 HP in this case) but when you target him, he showed as having full HP.

I asked people in the group to check their S/R rate. All of us were experiencing R from a range of 2500-3200 which is very very high. The ONLY time I see that is during events such as Besieged or Campaign.

I'm hoping this was just a random shitty incident, but if anyone else has noticed some lag issues in Salvage post-update, please let us know. Just so we know we're not crazy.

**Loire** · 2013-01-29 04:56

Trembling is physical so shell and baraera is not going to effect much on reducing it down. On mnk you'd be better off in evasion gear with a small mix of pdt unless you bring bard and just have it soul voice a mambo on you. Made that Hydra just a fucking pushover.

**Uzor** · 2013-01-29 05:24

I'm I the 2500+ range every time I enter salvage in every zone since I returned in January. Not sure why, but yes, it makes salvage a pain in the ass on WHM when the delay is so high.

**noodles355** · 2013-01-29 05:42

It's a physical attack and you had counterstance up so Protect didn't do shit either.

**Jem** · 2013-01-29 08:22

Originally Posted by Cairthenn

Just clarifying since it was sort of embedded in there: monsters that don't unlock anything do not count in the kill count (for example, Archaic Gear on Arrapago F2).

Killing three monsters on Arrapago F2 yielded one unlock on F3.
Killing eight unlock monsters on Arrapago F3 yielded two unlocks on F4.
Killing four unlock monsters on Arrapago F4 yielded one unlock on F5.
Killing five unlock monsters on Arrapago F5 yielded one unlock on F6.
Killing three unlock monsters on Arrapago F5 yielded one unlocked on F7. Killing two yielded none.

I'm pretty sure Arrapago is a flat 3 unlock monsters -> 1 unlock, but F1 may be different. I never actually keep track.

It's possible that Archaic Machinery/NM's don't count towards that. I know that on F2 whenever we kill the 2 Lamias plus the 4 Gears and NM gear, the F3 lamp is never active. If we kill 1 leech or vulture on top of that the lamp becomes active on F3.

Salvage V2 has been laggy since release for me with constant R1500-2000+ for the full run. Commented about it straight after it was released since it annoyed me. Highly doubt it's my connection either since I recently emigrated and it was the same in both England and America with it dropping back to perfectly normal levels as soon as I exit. Vanilla Salvage has normal R levels too so it's clearly something to do with how SE have coded V2.

I've been hit for 1600 by Trembling in Salvage on DRK, never 2k+ though so Counterstance is probably largely to blame. Trembling has always had the potential to hit hard from all Hydras though.

**Uzor** · 2013-01-29 08:25

It's impossible that it is my connection, I've 200 Mbit/s connection with a 4-6 ms ping, so yeah. No other area gives me a high R, only Salvage.

**Taint** · 2013-01-29 09:41

Originally Posted by Uzor

It's impossible that it is my connection, I've 200 Mbit/s connection with a 4-6 ms ping, so yeah. No other area gives me a high R, only Salvage.

I have a high end setup and lag in salvage. Its extremely annoying.

**Ratatapa** · 2013-01-29 09:52

Arn't SE servers bandwith speed limited anyway so that it won't change anything w/e you have a 10mb or 200mb connection?

**Slycer** · 2013-01-29 10:47

Originally Posted by Jem

It's possible that Archaic Machinery/NM's don't count towards that. I know that on F2 whenever we kill the 2 Lamias plus the 4 Gears and NM gear, the F3 lamp is never active. If we kill 1 leech or vulture on top of that the lamp becomes active on F3.

Anything that doesn't unlock pathos doesn't contribute towards lamp uses. The gears on F2 do not unlock Pathos (they are simply there as a pop condition to the NM), so they have no effect on the next floor's lamp.

**mdkuser** · 2013-01-29 12:59

Bhaflau especially i keep laging there while 2xbox when I dont lag 5xboxing in other zones. R is at 1500+ constantly

**Obsidian** · 2013-01-29 13:33

Originally Posted by Loire

Trembling is physical so shell and baraera is not going to effect much on reducing it down. On mnk you'd be better off in evasion gear with a small mix of pdt unless you bring bard and just have it soul voice a mambo on you. Made that Hydra just a fucking pushover.

My evasion was <10% will Boxer's/Somen+1/Torero/Novia/Ethereal/Usu. Gote/Athos boots, and enhanced Dodge (on both Hydras, and every other boss except Khim). I've had far more success using Counterstance than I have letting my face get beat in. If you aren't going to use Counterstance, you're better off sitting in PDT gear fulltime.

Edit: My R is over 1400 pretty much perpetually in any Salvage zone. It can be obnoxious sometimes.

**Darkmagi** · 2013-01-29 14:21

So I'm over 0/25 on Genta Hara-ate from BR, not sure on the exact number, but likely much higher. Am I just getting screwed by RNG, or is there something I'm missing?

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