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  1. #1761
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    I'm fairly confident I've never seen Cerberus (NQ) use GoH over 25% HP.
    Agreed. I'm pretty sure the Seether starts at 50% and begins using Acheron Flame <25%.

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    Maybe khim works the same

    NQ fulm at 25 (anyone seen nq fulm at 25+??)
    HQ fulm at 50, lithic breath at 25.

    Ive been lithic breathed twice in 15 or so kills, khim is a lot less spammy than cerb w tp.

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    99% sure lithic breath is only used if you stand in front of his face. That's how apademak works, and I have never seen a Lithic breath in all of my HQ kills while standing on side.

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    I've been Lithic'd once in the ten or so times I did Arra, and I'm always on one of the feet. May have just not been positioned properly, but a majority of the TP moves I ate were Dreadbolts and Tenebrous mists.

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    Well if anyone can confirm a Lithic from being directly on the side, that would be helpful.

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    I always tanked Khim from the back and never saw a Lithic in about 200 Umbrage Plans worth of Arrapago. For me, he could use Dreadstorm, Mist, Tourbillion, Plague Swipes, and Fulm.

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    Both NQ and HQ can lithic but only when tanking from the face in all of my runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Maybe khim works the same

    NQ fulm at 25 (anyone seen nq fulm at 25+??)
    HQ fulm at 50, lithic breath at 25.

    Ive been lithic breathed twice in 15 or so kills, khim is a lot less spammy than cerb w tp.

    It can Lithic at any %. My shout group wiped because I had a war who never fought a Khim before and got hit with a Lithic at ~90%

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    Ive only seen it at low hp, sorry

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    I've seen Lithic breath at ~50%, I've only seen Fossilizing Breath above that. I rarely see it at all though, because I generally stand out of breath conal area.

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    i have never seen a lithic since salvage II

    stood 90 degree from its head always

  12. #1772
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Maybe khim works the same

    NQ fulm at 25 (anyone seen nq fulm at 25+??)
    HQ fulm at 50, lithic breath at 25.

    Ive been lithic breathed twice in 15 or so kills, khim is a lot less spammy than cerb w tp.
    On the previous page i said NQ khim was probably <33% and you said you had seen it below 50% so I assumed you were talking about the NQ, but you meant the HQ? NQ is at least <33%. Just yesterday he used it @32. I'm not sure about HQ personally, but if you were referring to the HQ then it looks like he is <50%. HQ hydra is also <50%, and it looks like HQ cerb is <50%. The NQs are probably <25-33% then. No idea on the dvergr as I've only been to that zone once.

    Note: I got lithic breath'd once before. He used tourbillion, knocked me far away, I had to reposition my SCH so I could heal, and while I was doing that, he used breath on me. Now, I just reposition my BLU first.

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    I didn't touch Salvage much when it was current content so pardon my ignorance.

    I know how unforgiving salvage is but is there a way around having to farm silver sea cards before attempting to spawn madame on the 6th floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LidenbokValour View Post
    I didn't touch Salvage much when it was current content so pardon my ignorance.

    I know how unforgiving salvage is but is there a way around having to farm silver sea cards before attempting to spawn madame on the 6th floor?

    Floor 1 NM or Floor 4 Frog

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    I just asked on a whim but looking at the guide properly it's not as bad as I first though, thanks Taint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LidenbokValour View Post
    I didn't touch Salvage much when it was current content so pardon my ignorance.

    I know how unforgiving salvage is but is there a way around having to farm silver sea cards before attempting to spawn madame on the 6th floor?
    do SOuth frogs instead of north. for 4FS one person only need be fully unlocked, for 5FS you need to reach the floor in <30 min. very easy with just 3.

    So your NM kills will ne 2F(dup frog) 3FS 4FS 5FS and 6 will be up.

    edit: ok 4FS is time (45 mn) and 5FS is 1 person unlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    do SOuth frogs instead of north. for 4FS one person only need be fully unlocked, for 5FS you need to reach the floor in <30 min. very easy with just 3.

    So your NM kills will ne 2F(dup frog) 3FS 4FS 5FS and 6 will be up.
    4F is time requirement and 5F is unlock. iirc, 4FS requirement is something weird like 47 minutes or less, while the north requirement is the one that's 30 minutes. 5FS is one person unlocked. Just note if you go south side you (obviously) can't kill frog in 5FN which means you'll miss out on those potential drops if you have any use for them.

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    Yeah, I had 35 Morri feet in mind so Mdkuser's little guide works out perfectly for popping 6F Madame easily. Looks like you pretty much pick between 5F or 6F.

    Appreciate all the assistance guys, thank you.

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    and if you need 5FN you can also do 3FS>4FN>5FN, provided real players in the pt, considering I killed 3FS frog at 33 minute inside while tri-boxing, and the 3rd useless char was at the N warp ready to go up.

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    3boxing to hit 4fn in 30 min is almost impossible. Theres way too much cell micromanagement. I know im repeating what he said...with 3 human brains it should be doable, or ifthat salvage cell lot/pass thing worked.

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