Salvage II - Slavage Harder

[Byrthnoth]

Floor 1: http://www.ffxidb.com/variants/73/poroggo-comtesse/1f
Floor 3: http://www.ffxidb.com/variants/73/poroggo-comtesse/3f

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[Helel]

Thanks for the tips! I'm assuming physical spells don't do damage during pyric so I was wondering what spells (outside of the usual) you have set to deal with Hydra's silly TP moves. Also is Magic Barrier the only necessary line of defense vs Dvergr?

I can indeed bring the thf mule as a brd but I'm more concerned with plans. Willing to decrease my winrate on HQ boss, they're just bonuses ^^.

Magic barrier is the only thing I've ever used vs dvergr, and I've never died. I don't use any special spells vs. Hydra other than temporal shift to stun pyric bulwark. I use enstone from the SCH to overpower his auto-regen though. SCH can also nuke with thunder spells if needed. Cocoon is useful to mitigate damage while his shield is up.

Edit: Oh I should say that heavy strike has a decent chance of knocking his heads off.

[RicFlair]

Hmm how should i gear Requiescat vs Cerb and Pyric Hydra with no Morrigan +1? Wondering if the attack deficit makes attack more favorable than MND in some slots. Thinking:

85Almace/Str Skihagar/xxx/Aqua Sachet
Magavan Beret/Soil Gorget/Moonshade/Brutal
Praeco Doublet/Athos Gloves/Karka/Aqasoul
Atheling/Soil Belt/Morrigan Slops/Thaumas Feet


Main questions are Morrigan Slops vs Whirlwind Dirs vs Thaumas Kecks. Brutal Earring vs Neptune's Pearl. Any other suggestions?

Wondering if I should make a MND Skihagar just for Cerb because I dont wanna spend gil on another STR sword and I figure the MDB bonuses will be helpful vs GoH/Archeon Flame since playing defensively helps my triobox. Again thanks for the answers to my noobiness.

[Alistrianna]

Do the bosses in the new zones have mobs that weaken them in any way? We fought the Enraged Hydra the other day and it was hitting much harder than normal. The only thing we did differently vs other runs was skipping killing mobs on the fourth floor entirely. We took the bloodshed route so 4th floor was Diremites/Gears combo.

[Obsidian]

The hydras just hit harder than everything else.

[Kamil]

Do the bosses in the new zones have mobs that weaken them in any way? We fought the Enraged Hydra the other day and it was hitting much harder than normal. The only thing we did differently vs other runs was skipping killing mobs on the fourth floor entirely. We took the bloodshed route so 4th floor was Diremites/Gears combo.

Bloodshed path is Pugils. HQ Hydra only hits for 200 with -pdt on.

[macross]

We are having a few problems with Zhayolm Remnants II

1) First floor Poroggro NM, is it guaranteed to drop a Bloodshed? Yesterday it dropped only 1 Umbrage.

2) On the third floor, the Gear NM that pops in the southern room after opening the door, is it guaranteed to drop a Bloodshed? Yesterday it dropped only 1 Umbrage.

3) Fifth floor, is there any safe method of pulling the gears/chariot without aggroing them all?

Maybe the room where you pop the frog matters. Think is only 4 guaranteed ares drops anyhow.

i usually just grab one then train them off I don't want to kill em. But sleepga/horde lullaby enough to take care of them anyhow. You can sleep them all, chariot included.

[Taim Meich]

Asked this in the RQT, didn't have any success, so I'll try my luck here:

Has anyone tried PUP in Neo Salvage? I don't know the average level of the mobs there, but considering it's an event without super-buffs where, with a healing job present, it's totally reasonable to use the RNG automaton, I think it would be pretty good in there. And if the mage is having healing problems, PUP can change to WHM auto to help.

Probably /NIN as main DD and /WAR if along with another DD that's supposed to tank most of the time?

I guess the question could sum up as: I know DD THF mage is the standard trio set up, so, how does rank PUP in the DD slot? Above, in the middle, or under average? And how useful would it be with, say, 4 players, getting one more DD, like a SAM?

[tenkiki]

There's some videos on youtube of a pup soloing Arra2 and Bhaflau2, but only up to right before the megabosses just for plans, so at least for the climb up they don't seem too bad. For the NMs, pup should be ok with appropriate mdt/pdt/eva sets depending on which you fight. Only one that could be a problem would be cerb's pdt increase without magic/SC damage, but if you have another DD to tank, you could always try nuking it down while standing back.

[Byrthnoth]

PUP would be fine in there even as the only DD (with a buffer and WHM). It doesn't actually take very much damage output to full clear runs.

[Taim Meich]

Nice to know, thanks! Most of the time I'll be on SCH, but I wanted to know just in case.

[Magitek]

I've heard that PUP can solo SSR2. Not sure which path/nms, but if they can kill Dvergrs with Valoredge puppets, I'm sure they can handle the lesser plans NMs.

[Foldypaws]

So when they added 35s to the normal Rampart pops in Bhaflau, they did not joke around.

Spoiler: show

[NynJa]

Thats hilarious

[Protey]

ok, no more mnk/war counterstance. Orthrus Seether did 1,794 Scorching Lash even with -20% DT.

[NynJa]

Why were you tanking it from behind? o.o

[Protey]

i was on its side, and the thf was behind. guess i was a little too far back on its side.

[Protey]

yea damage is ridiculous. just normal gear are hitting me for 400 - 450 damage. sulfurous breath from Orthrus Seether did 1505 and he followed it up with a non crit hit of 743. that was with no DT- though. so yea... might have to start going lol /nin again like in 75 cap days or turtle up.

[TheDangerousDave]

Just did my first Salvage 2 (AR) and it was far easier than expected. Managed to clear a few NMs, NQ Khim and HQ Khim 2boxing Brawny MNK/WAR RDM/SCH and a friend on near naked new BRD char. Where does Khim lie in difficulty of bosses?

[Jem]

Probably the easiest of the bunch depending on how you rate Dvergr in difficulty.