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    Quote Originally Posted by Odesseiron View Post
    Good lord with all the firearm bitching. Dumb cunt should have kept her shit under lock and key inaccessible. There is no excuse but poor parenting.

    Oh and she should never have taught a mentally divergent person how to even handle any kind of firearm. If you know your kid is mentally ill, they should not know where the fuck the key even is. People act as if the rifle used got up and did it. Blame the fucking irresponsible people. Don't hold the 99% of careful firearm owners responsible.
    I can't really blame the mother for this. She probably bought the guns for the same reason everyone buys guns, self-protection/hobby/(hunting - probably not). Her kid had no history of violence and lives in the same house as her, so even if she kept the guns/ammo under lock and key I would assume he would know where the key was if he was at all interested. Pretty much no information from inside her house has been released at this point (except that he trashed his harddrive), so everyone that's out to lynch the mother here is doing so without evidence.

    Beyond that, shooting was obviously her hobby if she had multiple guns and frequented firing ranges. If she's like the parents of 20-somethings that I know, she was probably happy that her son wanted to come along (specifically outside) and do anything with her. Given the lack of a history of violence and the lack of a psychological prognosis that would indicate future violence, I can't see any logical reason to stop him from going and spending some time with his mom at the shooting range. It's not like they had 4 foot tall body-shaped targets.



    I doubt the mom is really at fault. I don't think there's any way she could have predicted the outcome of this situation. Not-owning guns may not have saved his mother if he wanted to kill her, but guns are the factor that allowed him to kill 28 people total (ending with himself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsudoku View Post
    Not the point etc., but as sad as it may sound, FFXI has indirectly been one of the greatest influences on me as a whole
    Me too. Most people bitch about their shitty high school experience. My high school years took place on FFXI; school was an afterthought (My grades, unfortunately, reflected this). Some of my closest friendships were formed in the crucible of XI. My parents were still heavily involved, so they weren't slacking or anything, and I have RL friends who never played XI, but I'd rank my years in XI right alongside Crohn's as far as impact on my life. Crohn's permeates EVERY aspect of my life (Which is why I talk about it so much), and XI did the same for several of my most important developmental years. The resulting friendships continue to do so. Oddly enough, they even entered my life at about the same time, too. I started playing XI just a few months before I was diagnosed. Anyway, I learned a LOT from XI, particularly while helping to lead a dynamis linkshell of about 80 members (usually 30ish/night, iirc). You learn quite a bit about managing people trying to get ~30 people to do what they're supposed to. Some of the real-world businesses I've interacted with could take a page or two out of our people-management playbook, tbh.

    Fortunately, aside from post-algebra math, I didn't really miss anything in High School. I paid attention in class, so while I got bad grades, I still did well on testing.

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    Re: So how about that Connecticut Elementary School Shooting; Troll at Your Own Risk

    Last few pages are all kinds of wtf. So now even children as old as teenagers need a heartfelt conversation explaining the not so subtle differences between reality and video games otherwise they might end up living life thinking they can do feats straight out of Halo(or shoot up a school), including but not limited to: flipping several ton vehicles with a single hand, moving on foot at fast speeds without losing their breath, surviving explosions 5 feet away with no injury, surviving multiple gun shots to the head with no long-term impairment, oh yeah and respawning after death.

    It's a shame my parents never told me DBZ was fake. I wouldn't have taken so many risks in life had I known my friends couldn't wish me back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDodo View Post
    Last few pages are all kinds of wtf. So now even children as old as teenagers need a heartfelt conversation explaining the not so subtle differences between reality and video games otherwise they might end up living life thinking they can do feats straight out of Halo(or shoot up a school), including but not limited to: flipping several ton vehicles with a single hand, moving on foot at fast speeds without losing their breath, surviving explosions 5 feet away with no injury, surviving multiple gun shots to the head with no long-term impairment, oh yeah and respawning after death.

    It's a shame my parents never told me DBZ was fake. I wouldn't have taken so many risks in life had I known my friends couldn't wish me back.

    As if you didn't try to control your ki when Gohan was handing out flying lessons.


    But seriously, of course kids need to be talked to, at any age. But its not a sit down birds and bees talk, its just an understanding that you can't be fucking stupid, especially when its going to hurt other people. Which comes from communicating with your child their entire lives, and being a generally non shitty parent.

    Ksan was right in the aspect of needing to talk to your kids, but Qal's last post was pretty spot on. This is something kids should be learning from soon after birth, an if they don't get it by the time they are old enough to be playing CoD and shit, then you have probably failed as a parent so far.

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    Friends, there is a gift that God has given me: I can smell something fishy a mile away. Like Benghazi. Almost on day one, I told my husband: “The facts don’t make sense. Something is wrong here.” Last night, after I saw a talking head interview (or, I should say, NOT interview) the father of the boy who saw his teacher get shot and ran for his life with a couple of friends, I told my husband, “Something is not right here. She didn’t ask a single relevant question. So far, this boy is the only eye-witness of the gunman coming forward. She didn’t ask if the boy saw one or more shooters. She didn’t ask any details of what the gunman did first, second, third. She didn’t ask for a description of the gunman. These reporters are complete prostitutes. They could care less about the feelings of the people they interview. So why didn’t she ask any of these questions?” In fact, I could tell she was biting back questions. I looked at my husband and said, “Cal, this thing is starting to stink. By now, there should be many eye-witness accounts of the actual gunman. There should be breathless survivors talking about how this guy walked by their room, etc. About how they narrowly escaped. But so far, it looks like every single eye-witness is dead. That is IMPOSSIBLE!”
    I watched the situation LIVE. There were original reports of a second man who was found in the woods that they had put in custody. This man was NEVER spoken of again. Why? The details of the shooting changed enormously from one minute to the next. Inside sources at the police departments were reporting one thing while the official accounts said completely different information. The news reports were full of such ambiguous NON statements that I was furiously looking throughout the internet to find solid evidence or eye-witness accounts to clarify. None was to be found. One example: They originally said that the shooter was buzzed in via the front office’s new video security system. Then, the news report said, “The shooter was NOT voluntarily buzzed into the school.” What the heck does THAT mean? Does that mean he forced his way through the system? Does that mean they have video evidence of his face? Does that mean that there was someone on the inside putting a gun to someone’s head to buzz the shooter in? Huh?
    Also, it seems highly unlikely, based on descriptions of Adam, that he could have purchased all that black ops gear! The guy is described as being so shy that he would hug the school walls when someone approached him! Also, first the news definitely says the mother was a teacher and the classroom of dead kids was her class. Then, reports are that she had nothing to do with the school. So, why the shooting there? Also, the number and kind of weapons used changed. Also, where they discovered the weapons. Sometimes they reported that all the weapons were in the school. Then they said the rifle was in the car. But they also said that the shooter used the rifle to kill every single person with multiple shots.
    No, something stinks here. The lack of eye witnesses of the shooter confirming the single shooter account is BLARINGLY absent. The reports of a second shooter in the woods has suddenly disappeared. The reporters are not grilling the one and only witness we know of- this little boy. Please don’t say they suddenly have even a smidge of conscience. The original statements about the shooter being buzzed into the school have simply disappeared. I was ready to let this go and explain it away as simple confusion. I was maddened by the timing and circumstances of the tragedy as concerns the upcoming UN small arms treaty & gun control. It killed me that this wack-job used LEGALLY REGISTERED weapons to do his killing. There is NO OTHER CONCLUSION, if the story is accurate, than the fact that had Adam Lanza NOT had access to those legal guns, he could never have killed those kids. He was too mentally ill to have gotten those weapons himself. He was diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome and we now know that he had many, many interventions by school officials in the past. I felt that the killing of little children would be the strongest argument yet that we should clamp down on gun ownership. I just couldn’t believe the TIMING and circumstances of this event- a GIFT to the Progressives to disarm us. Who can argue with this case? I was ready for the inevitable.
    But a friend sent me the following links which tell a different story. Having reported the event LIVE and experienced the changing information, I am not surprised. In fact, it makes sense now.
    Friends. I believe there is evidence of more than one shooter. I believe this was a PLANNED event- specifically to get the UN Small Arms Treaty signed. The father of the shooter is Peter Lanza, rumored to be scheduled to testify on the international LIBOR scandal. Guess who else is rumored to be scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal? Father of the BATMAN theater shooter. Amazing coincidence? We will see. The LIBOR scandal is a massive, worldwide network of banks, the Federal Reserve and highly position individuals such as Tim Geihtner and Ben Bernanke that are being accused of manipulating LIBOR rates to gain better market positions. Just some of the Banks involved are: the Canadian branches of the Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan Bank, and Citibank, as well as ICAP (Intercapital), an interdealer broker.[37 It also mentions Bank of America & Barclays. It is ugly to its roots and VERY powerful people are involved.
    I believe our GOVERNMENT shot those kids and teachers and used Adam Lanza and his family to pull it off. They might have killed two birds with one stone. One: If these men are involved in the LIBOR scandal, they can manipulate their testimony. Two: they get gun control. How very, very clever and efficient of them, right? I hate to say it. I hate to put myself ‘out there’ with this because I KNOW how I will be attacked. But I don’t do this for anyone’s approval. I do it to help the American People. You look at these links and you decide.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=uuhbCOqIaC4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=S59IXI9g6VE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=j_fI0hm1dqY
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...andy_hook.html
    http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-a...r-2447738.html
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...6-billion.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal
    http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblog...aud-scientist/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ic-father.html
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora...9#.UAnPJDFU2NE
    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-...rodo-shooting/
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-in-court.html
    http://hereisthecity.com/2012/10/04/...-grassley-and/

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    dat wall o text

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    You guys are missing out if you didn't read it.

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    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
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    Newtown truthers, Grassy knoll, second shooter, moon landing faked, planet X, reptilians.

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    All of my rage resisting on FB today.

    Someone posted this:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    Because, clearly times makes their decision exactly two minutes before mass printing, and finds the time in between those 120 seconds to take photos, and create an article.

    I am not saying those women aren't heros. They truly are, but to blast Time over not putting them there is shortsighted.


    It also came from this FB page, which makes me want to slap things.

    https://www.facebook.com/ConservativePatriotsofAmerica

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    Maybe the pro-gun movement wants to divert attention away from itself, so it's hoping people blame vid games instead. BG, how will you respond to this?
    I knew it!111

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    Apparently this media shitstorm is still brewing in people's screwed up minds to make life miserable for others...


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    We had a shooting threat at a highschool today. Used to be bomb threats. Obviously nothing happened and someone was just being a dbag.

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    We used to have bomb threats every single day at the same time for about 3 weeks straight when I was a sophmore. Then they finally caught the kid. I think he actually got a little jail time on top of being expelled.

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    I wonder if kids were calling in communist threats in the 50s to get out of school, or calling in raging negro threats in the 1860s.

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