Friend in trouble - advice appreciated

[Saga]

I've reached the conclusion that Churchill is effectively a feminazi, but for men. We need to invent a word to describe this.

Uh, everyone realizes Churchill is pretty much word-for-word reciting The Game, right? Neil Strauss? Style? Mystery even says in the book women are likes dogs - you train them by "rewarding" good behavior and "punishing" the bad. Nothing Churchill is saying is unique or original, lol.

Yeah it's all psychology and it sounds crazy but it works. Everyone (chicks included) do yourselves a favor and read The Game. Fascinating book if only for the sheer insanity of stories in it. Strauss is a phenomenal writer.

[Churchill]

I had to walk a line of perfection this whole time, frankly I'm pretty impressed I made it this far.

[Churchill]

Uh, everyone realizes Churchill is pretty much word-for-word reciting The Game, right? Neil Strauss? Style? Mystery even says in the book women are likes dogs - you train them by "rewarding" good behavior and "punishing" the bad. Nothing Churchill is saying is unique or original, lol.

I think they look at it from the point of view of PUA being the end all, while I think (evolutionary) psychology is a lot more important. I still haven't read it (even though I am told it is required). Is it any good?

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Drop that attitude. You don't describe an entire gender as feral. That's insulting and dumb.
You don't raise women.
You don't teach them how to behave.
A relationship should be between two adult individuals capable of mutual respect.

[Yugl]

Uh, everyone realizes Churchill is pretty much word-for-word reciting The Game, right? Neil Strauss? Style? Mystery even says in the book women are likes dogs - you train them by "rewarding" good behavior and "punishing" the bad. Nothing Churchill is saying is unique or original, lol.

Yeah it's all psychology and it sounds crazy but it works. Everyone (chicks included) do yourselves a favor and read The Game. Fascinating book if only for the sheer insanity of stories in it. Strauss is a phenomenal writer.

Given that his opposition continued this shit for over five pages, I doubt they did.

[kuronosan]

I don't agree with withholding sex, but the concept of conditioning is nothing new.

To disagree with that is to ignore basic human social function.

[Ksandra]

We really can't have a discussion if you're going to fail to associate 'type of argument' to the specific behavior "irrational".

how is that behavior irrational?

I don't agree with withholding sex, but the concept of conditioning is nothing new.

To disagree with that is to ignore basic human social function.

I never said conditioning was new, conditioning someone by ignoring them/withholding sex is psychologically abusive. Do you think a partner should be conditioning another to not speak their mind?

[edit] just gave my baby a bath. She tried drinking the bathwater, clearly church thinks I should have just ignored her and let her drown. aka church knows nothing about babies.

[Elites]

Originally Posted by Lucienne
Drop that attitude. You don't describe an entire gender as feral. That's insulting and dumb.
You don't raise women.
You don't teach them how to behave.
A relationship should be between two adult individuals capable of mutual respect.

Honestly speaking, a girl is tend to be raised quite differently in their upbringing. It all depends on the parents and culture. Also, any girl who is that rebellious and gives their parents a hard time such as the ones in our current awesome generation these days are a big pile of shit and need to be avoided. There are plenty of nice girls out there, why men settle for piles of shit just because they are attractive is beyond me. Being attractive gives them power over you and then withdrawing sex whenever they feel like just to put you on a leash? Yeah no thanks.

Anyway, I'm not talking about you when I say this but this situation reminds me more on when a guy wants to take away the girl for himself by manipulating her into what's right or wrong. If she's 30, let her fucking decide for herself who she wants to be with and quit crying over this petty shit. Worry about yourself and let her be, let her come to you if she needs help and stop trying to enforce shit in her mind.

[Abandon]

master of gifs

[kuronosan]

how is that behavior irrational?



I never said conditioning was new, conditioning someone by ignoring them/withholding sex is psychologically abusive. Do you think a partner should be conditioning another to not speak their mind?

[edit] just gave my baby a bath. She tried drinking the bathwater, clearly church thinks I should have just ignored her and let her drown. aka church knows nothing about babies.

The fact that you take it to such an extreme proves his point rather poignantly.

He is saying if your baby acts like she is drowning every time you put her in the water you don't just assume she is drowning and pull her out. You need to teach her what a bath is and not to throw a tantrum.

[Ksandra]

The fact that you take it to such an extreme proves his point rather poignantly.

He is saying if your baby acts like she is drowning every time you put her in the water you don't just assume she is drowning and pull her out. You need to teach her what a bath is and not to throw a tantrum.

....she's 8 months old....thanks for showing you know shit all about babies as well...

[Abandon]

8 months is a bit young to applying all the psych, lol, but i do see your point, gentlemen

[Ksandra]

she can't even say mommy yet, fucking lol

[Churchill]

can she say daddy

[Ksandra]

nope

I mean she says mamamamama and dadadadada and is kinda getting what they mean, but not quite yet.

close though.

[Churchill]

[Abandon]

oh god, lol

[kuronosan]

....she's 8 months old....thanks for showing you know shit all about babies as well...

Holy shit you can't be this dense. I was explaining his logic, not suggest you break out a fucking textbook.

In response, however, an eight month old infant has the mental capability to be taught.

Thanks for knowing shit all about childhood development though.

[Ksandra]

Holy shit you can't be this dense. I was explaining his logic, not suggest you break out a fucking textbook.

In response, however, an eight month old infant has the mental capability to be taught.

Thanks for knowing shit all about childhood development though.

You might want to read the thread.

first he specifically asked me what I did with my daughter.

second, of course they have a mental capability to be taught. learn to read, church was suggesting I should ignore her to teach her for "inappropriate behavior", which is not what you do with an 8 month old as their inappropriate behavior consists of trying to put everything in their mouths at this stage and ignoring = choking. There's some freudian childhood development for you. Oh but clearly I know nothing since church made a general statement because he doesn't know what stage my baby is at.

[kuronosan]

I'm not talking about church making his point, because there is a ton of it I don't agree with. I was trying to help form a connection between what he said and what you think he said and you are attacking me for it. I respond in kind because you're acting as if I think you're a baby-popping tramp who should drown her child and I don't even think that.

This is the very reason I was going to stay away from this topic.