2012-2013 NFL Week 17: CJ Spiller's Very Own Thread!

**Mizango** · 2013-01-01 21:51

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

Holy fuck, didn't know AlMo had 1600 yards and 13 TDs. 6th rounder that was in rotation at the beginning of the year. Holy fuck that's ridic.

Redskins are about to rule the NFC East for the next decade.

Yeah man, dude was a monster.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-01-01 22:09

Hey Miz, do you know of a team this year with more injuries than the cowboys bro? Like 3 more people suffered high ankle sprains, Dez was hospitalized, and Romo broke ribs on sunday.

**Tweek** · 2013-01-01 22:36

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

Hey Miz, do you know of a team this year with more injuries than the cowboys bro? Like 3 more people suffered high ankle sprains, Dez was hospitalized, and Romo broke ribs on sunday.

You heard of the packers or ravens?

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-01-01 22:42

Originally Posted by Tweek

You heard of the packers or ravens?

Who do the raven's have injured besides a couple guys on defense that were semi important. Afaik, they had the typical amount of injuries, just that the players injured were good.

Packer's have WR #1/2/3, clay matthews, 4 ILBs, BJ raji, #2/3 safety, slot corner and AR12 with significant injuries?

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-01-01 22:50

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

Who do the raven's have injured besides a couple guys on defense that were semi important. Afaik, they had the typical amount of injuries, just that the players injured were good.

Packer's have WR #1/2/3, clay matthews, 4 ILBs, BJ raji, #2/3 safety, slot corner and AR12 with significant injuries?

And #1-2 RBs, #1 RT, #1 LOLB.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-01-01 23:05

Not being able to convert 3rd downs is not a significant injury.

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-01-01 23:51

Look at this guy, setting his own spike in a game of shit-poster volleyball.

**Rhinox** · 2013-01-02 00:08

Leroy not to be outdone by Tagus

**Rhinox** · 2013-01-02 00:38

Fucking lol Jason LaCanfora and Mike florio fueding on twitter

**Ishido** · 2013-01-02 02:03

Originally Posted by Marootsoobutsu

Reid is a bad coach, and with my wife being a 49ers fan, I welcome him in Arizona. As a Broncos fan, I wish that San Diego would take him. He got way too much credit for the work of his DC and is terrible at clock and game management. He's great at getting the most out of bad QBs that can be got out of them, but I have no fear whatsoever of an Andy Reid led team. Retread coaches rarely work out well; the game is innovation, and Reid hasn't done anything usefully new in 10 years.

On the other hand, John Fox and Shanahan.

**Judai** · 2013-01-02 02:18

Originally Posted by Marootsoobutsu

Retread coaches rarely work out well; the game is innovation, and Reid hasn't done anything usefully new in 10 years.

There are plenty of coaches who went to a new team and did fine, if not better. Belicheck, Coughlin, Carroll to name three more current "retread" head coaches.

**Xajii** · 2013-01-02 02:50

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

Who do the raven's have injured besides a couple guys on defense that were semi important. Afaik, they had the typical amount of injuries, just that the players injured were good.

Packer's have WR #1/2/3, clay matthews, 4 ILBs, BJ raji, #2/3 safety, slot corner and AR12 with significant injuries?

Couple of guys on defense? Dude they had literally four starters in on defense going into the most critical point in our season.

Webb was the Revis to the ravens defense. The schemes they ran were designed with it.being taken.for.granted that he doesn't get beat. Suggs played about a quarter of the season and probably shouldn't have. Our other CB was out most of.the season. Ray Lewis. Ellerbe was out. Now McClain is ded so we have Josh fucking bynes playing. Ngata and reed haven't been healthy all season. Pollard ded for the final stretch. McClellan out too.

Then there's yanda going out for a couple which killed the entire offense and we haven't had both tight ends healthy on the same week until last week when it didn't matter.

The packers and cowboys also had a brutal year but lol no this wasn't par for the course. Also the jets lost like the only three good players on their team

**Marootsoobutsu** · 2013-01-02 03:03

Originally Posted by Judai

There are plenty of coaches who went to a new team and did fine, if not better. Belicheck, Coughlin, Carroll to name three more current "retread" head coaches.

Belicheat, Shanahan, and a few others had brief stints with their old clubs before winning it all, but weren't really established as HCs like Reid is. Carroll's having a great season; we'll see how well he does in the long-haul. Coughlin is an exception to the generality; Don Shula was another, but generally, once a guy's been a HC for more than 5 years with a team, he doesn't really blow things up elsewhere. I should have been more specific in my definition of retread, or more elaborate. I had a great chance in college to do a study on the success of first-time head coaches vs. long established head coaches with new teams vs. short-time coaches with new teams. Long-timers going to a new team do substantially poorer, as a group, than either first-time head coaches or guys going to their second job after a brief job with a team that was struggling before their arrival. Coaches that come to a winning team (Dungy to Indy, Gruden to Tampa), kind of mess with some of that, but on the whole, you're more likely to make it to the championship game and more likely to win the Super Bowl, with a guy who's on his first job, or his second after a 3 year span with his first. Very few head coaches win their first Super Bowl more than 7 years into their head coaching career, too (or NFL Championship if you take things back to the 30s and 40s). Partly, I think, it's because there's usually a reason that a coach gets fired: the game has passed him by. Sometimes, it's because they are trying to do too much. Holmgren in Seattle, Shanahan in Denver, Belichick in Cleveland, were all trying to be coach and GM. Holmgren wasn't fired as coach, but he was fired as GM. And a coach who has his duties reduced isn't quite in the same boat as one who's just been disappointing for a few seasons, but even so, once they've had enough time to implement their scheme effectively and be starting home-grown draftees, it's not often they really go on to get the win later with their own team, let alone another one.

To address Coughlin, he's a supremely odd case: his teams haven't been dominant teams in the NFL, even in the playoffs (except against Deuce). I'm not saying Coughlin's not a good coach, but the Giants are in a weird place where they push through mediocre seasons to win, as opposed to teams like the 90s Broncos or Cowboys, the 80s/90s Giants, 49ers, Redskins, the 2000s Patriots/Colts/Steelers, who simply dominate the regular season, and are always in the playoffs.

**Moss** · 2013-01-02 03:24

I still think "retread HCs rarely work out well" is a bad generalization

bottom line, the successful HCs are tied to great QBs, as that is necessary for success. If I was a fan of one of these teams that has been a mess for a while (BUF/ARI/KC etc) with constant turnover at HC I would be happy to get an established guy like Reid.

Saying the game has passed him by is a gross simplification as well. I will never understand why men with otherwise brilliant football minds do not have the common sense to manage the clock/timeouts so I'm not going to touch that, but otherwise Reid is a solid coach. He has instant credibility and should at the very least bring some stability and continuity if they give him some time to fix the offense.

I still can't get over the McCarthy challenge and the fact that at least two of his players knew the rule better than he did.

**Bregor** · 2013-01-02 05:31

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Next year's opponents are set

Packers are FUCKED lol. Vikings can't feel too great either.

Yeah, sucks to face the absolute juggernauts of the NFC East and AFC North...

Originally Posted by noblemountain

C'mon Bregs...I don't wanna be a Browns fan

COME TO THE DARK SIDE NOBLE

**Bregor** · 2013-01-02 05:33

CLEVELAND Home: Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Bills, Dolphins, Jaguars, Bears, Lions
CLEVELAND Road: Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Jets, Chiefs, Packers, Vikings

8-8 is in sight!

**Boyiee** · 2013-01-02 06:14

Originally Posted by Bregor

CLEVELAND Home: Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Bills, Dolphins, Jaguars, Bears, Lions
CLEVELAND Road: Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Jets, Chiefs, Packers, Vikings

8-8 is in sight!

It actually is.

**Bregor** · 2013-01-02 07:08

Originally Posted by Derock

MVPROACTIV gonna sting dey ass

yeop

**Tajin** · 2013-01-02 07:54

Originally Posted by Rhinox

Leroy not to be outdone by Tagus

Lulz

**Cail** · 2013-01-02 08:25

Home Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, N.Y. Giants, New England, N.Y. Jets
Away Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Arizona, San Francisco, Minnesota, Buffalo, Miami

afc east, nfc west, plus minny and the giants. BRING IT DEROCK

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