2013 America (and Friends!) Gun Violence Thread No Plows Allowed!

[Waraji]

Obama already turning this shit show into a gun law debate as per usual !

Why the fuck not? It's not being Turned into a Gun Law Debate, regardless if people want to call it or not.

[wipers]

You really think changing laws would stop someone from killing people ? Please detail how that will work.

[kuronosan]

You really think changing laws would stop someone from killing people ? Please detail how that will work.

Yea, we'll never get rid of criminals. Definitely not worth discussing at any length.

[Quicklet]

Yes. I posted this about a month ago after the news reporter and her cameraman was shot on TV:

If someone wants to speed and drive recklessly, they will speed and drive recklessly, therefore we shouldn't have a speed limit or laws and regulations regarding driving.

If someone wants to go find children to sexually abuse, they will find a way, therefore having sex offender registries are useless.

If someone wants to hurt another person in an act of revenge or hate, they will find a way to do so, therefore there's no point in restricting access to more lethal weapons even when the person has a history of problematic behavior.

People who want to break the law are just going to ignore the law anyway, so what's the point of having any laws at all?

And this pretty much sums up the absurdity of this cycle we are in where everytime this happens, the same protests are put up against changing anything. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

[Dimmauk]

We need strict gun laws and looser sword laws.

[Sho]

And nothing will change. Fuck America.

[Tarage]

Something something mental health something something ignored again.

[6souls]

Surviving witnesses from the classrooms the shooter entered are saying he killed students based on their religious beliefs. Teacher in one classroom was shot in the head before he entered.

[Waraji]

killed students based on their religious beliefs.

Yes, but whiiich beliefs? There doesn't seem to be enough information out, or survivors from that classroom?

[Tyrath]

And nothing will change. Fuck America.

Whoever said that "if nothing changed after Sandy Hook, it ain't gonna change now" was spot on.

[thetruepandagod]

Obama beta male debate when?

[6souls]

Yes, but whiiich beliefs? There doesn't seem to be enough information out, or survivors from that classroom?

Kortney Moore, 18, told News Review-Today that she was in her Writing 115 class in Snyder Hall when one shot came through a window. She said she saw her teacher get shot in the head.

The shooter was inside at that point, and he told people to get on the ground, Moore told the newspaper.

The shooter was asking people to stand up and state their religion and then started firing, Moore said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...er_ask_vi.html

[6souls]

The website/newspaper the quote is from originally has it's content locked behind a paywall.

http://www.nrtoday.com/news/18449822...pqua-community

[BerenTebogo]

Wipers going 0-retard in record time. Am impressed. Good job.

[Acevalefor]

Whenever we have workplace accidents, we work to fix safety problems.
Whenever we have drug related crimes happen, we create an entire agency to deal with it.
et al
Whenever we have shootings happen, we do absolutely nothing and shrug our shoulders until the next time, then we do absolutely nothing again.

[Tyrath]

This was published last year. Still relevant as fuck.

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-w...ere-this-36131

[BerenTebogo]

I especially love how every time this happens the USA is put under a spotlight of real and measurable data analysis. We are reminded every time that there is a real and measurable correlation between gun violence and severity of gun control laws / proliferation of guns to the public.

Even within our own country, looking at the data on gun violence per x people between say, Massachusetts or Rhode Island and pickaflyoverstate is hilariously alarming.

Always have reactionary asshats saying "tell me how stricter gun laws will stop criminals!" When the reality is that we have demonstrably shown for years now that stricter gun control laws do == less gun violence, worldwide.

But hey, muh freedoms.

[6souls]

Live streams:

http://koin.com/video/livestream/?cid=twitter_KOINNews
http://fox4kc.com/category/news/

Sheriff on right now

[Waraji]

Too Long Didn't Watch: Tune back in tomorrow, no details/conclusions yet.

[6souls]

Confirmed numbers: 10 dead, 7 wounded