2013 America (and Friends!) Gun Violence Thread No Plows Allowed!

[Byrthnoth]

There's nothing to indicate that low performing schools are a cause rather than a symptom.

Factors like childhood nutrition dramatically affect cognitive performance for the duration of your lives. If you wanted to set a really pretty small goal that would improve our country in the long run, guarantee free cafeteria breakfast/lunch for kids. It doesn't necessarily have to be super healthy happy expensive food. It needs to make sure they aren't malnourished.

[Ksandra]

There's nothing to indicate that low performing schools are a cause rather than a symptom.

Factors like childhood nutrition dramatically affect cognitive performance for the duration of your lives. If you wanted to set a really pretty small goal that would improve our country in the long run, guarantee free cafeteria breakfast/lunch for kids. It doesn't necessarily have to be super healthy happy expensive food. It needs to make sure they aren't malnourished.

This is done already for anyone who is low income and isn't nearly enough. The food is often shit because of the crazy rules and categories (pizza is a vegetable, anyone?)

Don't get me wrong, it's the right idea, just that it's already implemented. It needs improving. This is what Michelle Obama has been obsessing over and even then it's still not right.

[Zealot]

Access to education is only one factor. Wyoming, a state I examined a lot because of the sheer number of guns there (and lack of regulation) is well below the average for college graduates, but almost everyone at least gets a high school education. That's all they need in many cases to get jobs that pay a decent wage in the state.

If I really had to speculate, I'd say that it's more the crushing hopelessness of seeing no opportunities generation to generation (which gives way to a cultural shift over time where the violence is just a way of life) at the root of the problem. In other words, simply pouring money into areas to revitalize schools and businesses won't have an effect right away. It would take two or three generations of consistent dedication to improving the quality of life for the most dangerous parts of the country.

OR we could enact very strict universal gun laws across the entire country and enforce them 100% of the time. That would bring the lower 48 closer to Hawaii's standard.

I am not actually sure which would be more difficult.

[Fondue]

Bangladesh's Daily Star newspaper said the gunmen tortured anyone who was unable to recite the Koran. They provided meals overnight for only the Bangladeshi captives, it said.

"It was an extremely heinous act," Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said in a televised statement. "What kind of Muslims are these people? They don't have any religion.

I like how no true Muslim is the go to thing

[Dotsudoku]

I mean as far as the muslim community at large is concerned, it's applicable

most christians are pretty quick to distance themselves from westboro and the like, and rightfully so

[Fondue]

Christians don't need to distance themselves from the 40 members of Westboro because Westboro is universally recognized as a gimmick for money and completely irrelevant

The Islamic state has a few million members and a significant portion of muslims with sympathies

Why does it seem like the only distancing they do is from foreigners in public places so they don't get blown up too

[Apelila]

Shots fired and 2 officers down in Downtown Dallas.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/us/phi...ion/index.html

Makes me glad I'm not down there tonight, and I'm sure as hell happy this protest wasn't going on earlier when I was down there.

[Xno Kappa]

Four officers dead, seven injured. Fuck da pohleese amirite!?

[Apelila]

Interesting. The news feed for wfaa goes dark right after the reporter speculates about ongoing developments. I'm going to bed, I hope work is still there in the morning.

#nobombs pleeeeease #nobombs

[zoobernut]

Shooting today in Michigan courthouse. Two bailiffs dead and one gunman dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/us/mic...ing/index.html

[archibaldcrane]

Fivethirtyeight is doing a deep dive on gun violence in America, with nearly a dozen articles on the issue. They're breaking up the victims into classes and examining what has or hasn't, might or might not work to reduce gun deaths in that class (domestic violence victims, suicides, mass shootings, young black men, police, etc.).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-introduction/

[Ragnus]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dnc-staffer...ry?id=40551800

DNC staffer was shot to death in DC. He wasn't robbed, and I guess there were no witnesses.

[BerenTebogo]

The Berner revolution is gonna happen one way or another!

[Ragnus]

That's one way to spin it I guess. Already saw a conservative facebook page post that it sounds like in inside hit because he knew too much.

[6souls]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...e-than-a-dozen

Shooting outside of Club Blu in Fort Myers, FL. 2 dead and 14 injured aged 12 to 27 years old.

[Tricen]

Oh hey, my town is famous again! We had a shooting at zombie con 9 months ago. That will most definitely go unsolved. This, on the other hand, is pretty crazy. It was in a not-so-good part of town. Not entirely sure what exactly happen, but the people who were killed I think were just in cross fire between other people. Really sad day though, it was supposed to be for teens and stuff. Jeez

[Headspace]

Oh hey, my town is famous again! We had a shooting at zombie con 9 months ago. That will most definitely go unsolved. This, on the other hand, is pretty crazy. It was in a not-so-good part of town. Not entirely sure what exactly happen, but the people who were killed I think were just in cross fire between other people. Really sad day though, it was supposed to be for teens and stuff. Jeez

Yeah there's a decent amount of gang activity for what's advertised as a retirement region. Friend of mine had a cousin die in drive by cross fire outside Edison Mall a few years ago.

Don't recall that making CNN headlines.


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[thetruepandagod]

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https://www.rt.com/usa/354053-shooti...as-casualties/

[6souls]

Chad Copley shoots & kills a Young Black Man from his Garage to Secure his Neighborhood from "Hoodlums," Details sound like a George Zimmerman copycat

Police say Chad Copley, 39, fired a shot from inside his garage on Sunday morning, killing Thomas, who friends and family say was walking to his car after leaving a party.

Before firing what he described as a “warning shot,” Copley had called 911, telling dispatchers that he was “locked and loaded” and going to confront “hoodlums” who were armed and racing up and down his street, according to a recording of the call obtained by The Post.

He then called back and told the 911 operator: “We got somebody that got hit.”

When officers arrived, they found Thomas suffering from a gunshot wound. He was pronounced dead at a hospital a little later.

Copley was arrested and is in Wake County jail, where he’s charged with first-degree murder. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

On Sunday, calling 911 from his home in northeast Raleigh around 1 a.m., Copley claimed to be a part of his neighborhood watch. He told a 911 operator to send a police car fast — he was “locked and loaded,” he said, and was going outside to confront a group of “hoodlums.”

“We got a bunch of hoodlums out here racing,” he said. “I’m going outside to secure my neighborhood.”

The dispatcher asked: “You’re going to do what?”

“I’m going to secure my neighborhood,” Copley said.

He continued: “I’m on neighborhood watch. I am going to have the neighborhood meet these hoodlums out here racing up and down the street. It’s 1 in the morning. There’s some devil in them. They have firearms, and we’re going to secure our neighborhood. If I was you, I would send PD out here as quickly as possible.”

A few minutes later, Copley was on the phone with dispatchers again.

“I yelled at them, ‘Please leave the premises,'” he said. “They were showing firearms, so I fired a warning shot and uh, we got somebody that got hit. …

“I fired my warning shot like I’m supposed to by law. … They do have firearms, and I’m trying to protect myself and my family.”

The dispatcher pressed for more information: Who’s been shot, how badly are they injured — and where, exactly, is the victim?

“Please just send a car,” Copley responded. “There’s friggin’ black males outside my friggin’ house with firearms. Please, send PD. Thank you.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.32e65b5a8a12

Photo of the Hoodlum on the night he was killed;

Spoiler: show

And of Chad

Spoiler: show

[Eticket]

http://ktla.com/2016/08/11/tennessee...ting-startled/

A father who shot his 11-year-old daughter after school on Monday afternoon said he did not intentionally shoot her, according to Hendersonville, Tennessee, police.

Timothy Batts said he shot Timea Batts after she screamed and scared him, television station WSMV in Nashville reported, citing a police affidavit.

Timea Batts, a sixth grader at Knox Doss Middle School at Drakes School, had just returned home from the first day of school.

He told police that he shot his daughter after being awakened by a sound in the house. He said he got the gun from his dresser and shot it.