2013 America (and Friends!) Gun Violence Thread No Plows Allowed!

[Waraji]

Was going to post this yesterday, seeing as its relevant to the thread and Internets.

What Is “Creepypasta,” Who Is Slender Man, And What Caused The Vicious Stabbing Of A 12-Year-Old Girl?
NSFW(just CreepyPasta images posted nothing gruesome)

Creepypasta holding a fundraiser next week:
http://fox6now.com/2014/06/05/creepy...abbing-victim/

[Zeb]

Husband and wife shoot gunmen who try to enter their St. Louis home, killing 1
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/01/mich...#axzz34NZcGrla

ST. LOUIS • A husband and wife armed with guns were able to stave off an apparent home invasion Monday night, police said.

One man was killed and a second taken to a hospital in the incident, which happened about 11 p.m. in the 4600 block of Newport Avenue.

Police say a 17-year-old girl who lived at the home was outside retrieving something from her car when she was approached by two masked and armed men who forced her into her house, using her as a shield.

The teen’s father, 34, saw the men walking up with his daughter, got his firearm and fired several shots at them, striking both of the men as they entered his home. The teen’s mother, 34, also retrieved a gun and fired once at the men but did not hit either, police said.

One of the men, Terrell Johnson, 31, of the 4500 block of Natural Bridge Road, collapsed on the living room floor and was pronounced dead at the scene.

The second man, Cortez McClinton, 33, was standing behind Johnson when Johnson was shot. McClinton pointed a gun inside the doorway and also was shot. McClinton then ran away and got his brother to transport him to a hospital, police said. He was treated for gunshot wounds to the chest and both thighs.

McClinton, of the 3100 block of Pennsylvania Avenue, was charged with second-degree murder (also called felony murder), kidnapping, burglary and armed criminal action. McClinton’s cash bail was set at $1 million.

In May 2010, McClinton was charged with fatally shooting Bryan Reed, 28, the previous month. Reed was sitting with a friend in a car April 24 in the 3700 block of Minnesota Avenue about 12:40 a.m. when a gunman approached and shot Reed several times.

The St. Louis Circuit Attorney’s Office dropped murder and armed criminal action charges against McClinton in Reed’s killing because of a lack of witness cooperation, said Susan Ryan, a spokeswoman for the office. McClinton was released from jail in January 2013 after nearly three years behind bars awaiting trial on the murder case and other unrelated charges that were ultimately dropped.

McClinton has convictions in Missouri of drug possession and distribution and vehicle tampering.

The investigation is ongoing, police said.

No one answered the door at the home Tuesday, but broken glass and bullet holes marked the storm door where shots were fired.

I bet these murderers go free.

[Waraji]

Saw no mention of the Shooting Spree in Las Vegas recently. The alleged white supremacists/Cliven Bundy ranch nut jobs practically executing cops in Nevada, then get cornered and both go out Murder Suicide. MSNBC's been all over this past couple of days.

[wipers]

Saw no mention of the Shooting Spree in Las Vegas recently. The alleged white supremacists/Cliven Bundy ranch nut jobs practically executing cops in Nevada, then get cornered and both go out Murder Suicide. MSNBC's been all over this past couple of days.

School shooting or nothing !

[The Stig]

So this is going to be broadcasted tonight:

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/p.../kids-and-guns

If site is blocked:

The controversial right to bear arms is at the heart of American culture. In the USA today there is a huge divide amongst parents. Some are against the sale of toy guns while others are buying the children the real thing. Kids and Guns will shed light on the world of child shooters, illuminating the fascinating beliefs, ambitions, and paranoia that underpin it.

Teaching your kids to shoot is seen as a fun family experience and yet over 3,000 children are killed or injured every year in accidental shootings. This unique and moving film follows the stories of three American families tackling the difficult issues behind the American relationship with firearms and the compelling stories behind the horrifying statistics.

For 9 year old Hank shooting was a way of life for his family. Although Hank was only 9 he had already shot 14 deer and hundreds of squirrels to eat. After saving his money, his mother brought him his own youth rifle – a gun specifically designed for children. In February 2014 whilst staying at the family deer camp, he went out alone to shoot and never returned. Following a huge police and helicopter search, and with the help of the local community, Hank’s body was discovered 200 yards from the camp. Kelli and Brad believe that the gun was faulty and that the safety feature did not work as it fired accidentally when it hit the ground after Hank tripped. The programme tells their compelling story in the aftermath of their son’s death. Surprisingly neither Kelli nor Brad believe in stricter gun control for children. As Kelli comments: “Hank wouldn’t want kids to stop hunting.”

JD lost the use of both legs and an arm when he stepped on an I.U.D while serving in Afghanistan. Returning home to Kentucky, he was keen to reconnect with his daughter through hunting so bought her a rifle for her fourth birthday. The film follows their experiences as he tries to get Kaylin to use her huge .44 calibre Magnum at home despite her protestations: “She is going to learn to shoot whether she likes it or not.” The film follows JD and Kaylin as he tries to get her to bond with him through his love of hunting and shooting, not necessarily always getting the results he wants.

Spyder moved to Texas from New York following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. While he had never owned a gun before, he became paranoid about the Taliban driving up the interstate and amassed an arsenal of weapons claiming: “There's a saying here in Texas, if you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough.” Under his tutelage, his 9 year-old daughter Gia has begun to shoot competitively, using weapons that have been bought or made especially for her. He is a demanding teacher and makes no apologies for it, pushing Gia to the point of tears if she does not perform as well as expected: “You're gonna cry in life. Get used to it, just cry for the right things.”

Director - Francine Shaw
Executive Producers – Ruth Kelly, Morgan Matthews
Production Company – Minnow Films

When watching TV last night this show was advertised... the thing that stuck in my head was a mother saying "for me it is important my child learns how to use a gun" which got me laughing, then I remembered this thread on BG, so I thought I'd check in. Gonna watch this tonight and see what lulz comes up.

[Eurell]

Holy shit. I worked with Spyder. We were pretty close until I moved back to Florida a few years ago lol.

And lol at amassing an arsenal. Dude owned like 1 gun at a time the whole time I knew him. Bought a few more once his daughter moved in and they started doing competitions and stuff.

[Salodin]

JD lost the use of both legs and an arm when he stepped on an I.U.D while serving in Afghanistan. Returning home to Kentucky, he was keen to reconnect with his daughter through hunting so bought her a rifle for her fourth birthday. The film follows their experiences as he tries to get Kaylin to use her huge .44 calibre Magnum at home despite her protestations: “She is going to learn to shoot whether she likes it or not.” The film follows JD and Kaylin as he tries to get her to bond with him through his love of hunting and shooting, not necessarily always getting the results he wants.

Returning home to Kentucky, he was keen to reconnect with his daughter through hunting so bought her a rifle for her fourth birthday.

Get the fuck outta here...nothing wrong can come of this. Ever.

I was in my mid teens by the time I fired a gun for the first time, and only then did I realize how powerful they were. Obviously I knew how dangerous they were, but until you fire a gun you just don't realize how much power you have in even the smallest of guns. I would not let some flimsy four year old arm hold a firearm, why is this even allowed?

[BaneTheBrawler]

muh freedoms

[The Stig]

I missed the show

Gotta wait for a repeat haha, or I'll track it down online.

[Quicklet]

Everytime I see some piece of media regarding parents being all "rah rah" about indoctrinating their children into gun culture as if they can understand all the ramifications of what they're being given access to at that age, I'm reminded of this unfortunate incident which occurred under adult supervision.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27399337/n...-self-gun-show

[djzombie]

Hand a kid a full auto uzi and then wonder how things went bad. I've been shooting since I was very young, about 10, but at no point in my childhood would my father ever thought it was a good idea to hand me a full auto anything. Just because they're adults, doesn't mean they're intelligent adults.

I've said this a couple times before here, but my high school had(and still does to this day) a firing range in the basement. Rifle teams and competitions are a thing around this area. I've been using that firing range since I was in middle school(all 3, elementary, middle and high school occupy the same land, but are different buildings). There are ways to teach children to responsibly handle firearms, handing them a full auto uzi with little to no experience firing a semi auto is not one of them.

[archibaldcrane]

I've been shooting since I was very young, about 10...There are ways to teach children to responsibly handle firearms, handing them a full auto uzi with little to no experience firing a semi auto is not one of them.

Pretty much this.

Unfortunately way more than enough people are fucking idiots and ruin everything.

[Buffy]

Teach them the way my grandfather taught me. He took me out to the farm, strapped a claymore to a cow, and set it off.

Then he made me clean up the mess.

I'm very, very careful about disarming explosives.

[BaneTheBrawler]

i dont even

[Qalbert]

should've strapped it to you

[Qalbert]

I'm sure your health insurance would cover it

[Waraji]

I'm sure grandpa would have still made em clean up the mess.

[djzombie]

Teach them the way my grandfather taught me. He took me out to the farm, strapped a claymore to a cow, and set it off.

Then he made me clean up the mess.

I'm very, very careful about disarming explosives.

Yes cause anti personnel mines and semi automatic rifles equate to the same level of danger.

I never understood why people want to treat firearms like abstinence only sexual education. Isn't it better to have your child know something, anything, about safely operating a firearm, than to know nothing about it and have a potentially fatal accident?

I know your solution is to just get rid of all of the guns, but this is murica, and that shit aint gonna happen any time soon.

[Niiro]

Unlike sex, guns are not a normal, natural, or inevitable part of life.

You don't reach puberty and suddenly see guns walking around everywhere just begging to be groped.

[archibaldcrane]

I never understood why people want to treat firearms like abstinence only sexual education.

Because too many of the "teachers" are fucking retarded.

There's not exactly a standardized curriculum that random gun nuts are following when they teach their kids about guns.

On top of that, even with proper training, giving access to guns to trained children/teens does not preclude them from irresponsible use out of curiosity, immaturity, mental illness, etc.