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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    It's a legally-bound contract. The state doesn't have grounds to violate that because there is no state law that says sperm donation must come from a doctor. All he has to do is say he had sex with one of them and that argument goes out the window. What's the difference between rubbing sperm into her vagina using your penis, a finger, or someone else's finger? A donation is a donation. The state is arguing this issue because 1) it involves lesbians, 2) it didn't involve a doctor, and 3) they didn't get anything out of it.
    The thing is that without a doctor writing it off or something, it's going to be hard to prove that it's the method they used.

    and the govt. is probably scared of it becoming a cop out; like one night stands or something they could just be like "oh I donated the sperm, the govt instead of him can support this baby" etc.

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    so the government is afraid of treating men fairly

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    The thing is that without a doctor writing it off or something, it's going to be hard to prove that it's the method they used.

    and the govt. is probably scared of it becoming a cop out; like one night stands or something they could just be like "oh I donated the sperm, the govt instead of him can support this baby" etc.

    slippery slope, as they have it written down.

    Sadly, this isn't the first time gov't fuck up about this stuff. I read an article that years ago a guy was paying child support for awhile, then got the mother to take a paternity test, turns out the guy wasn't the father, but the courts ordered him to continue paying child support anyway. Shit's retarded.

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    Never said it wasn't, just saying it's probably one of their fears. Their motives can be driven by a slippery slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    slippery slope, as they have it written down.

    Sadly, this isn't the first time gov't fuck up about this stuff. I read an article that years ago a guy was paying child support for awhile, then got the mother to take a paternity test, turns out the guy wasn't the father, but the courts ordered him to continue paying child support anyway. Shit's retarded.
    Good news for guys like him, states are very slowly trying to make paternity testing of newborns an option (if not mandatory). Such bills tend to not go anywhere, because, you know, sand, but it makes it as far as the legislative agenda can get it. Just needs public support.

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    Well if a worst case, can't they go back into another agreement saying the couple agrees to pay him 200 a month for the sperm to "balance" it all out? Or is the state making an attempt to garnish his wages so it comes right out of his paycheck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    so the government is afraid of treating men fairly
    You sound surprised.

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    The use of the term slippery slope in this thread is making me feel a little bit uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    That's just a slippery slope to being offended.
    Everything is just slippery or sticky in this thread.

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    Is the state trying to collect because the lesbian couple is getting some kind of state assistance? I can't think of any other reason they'd be trying to make him pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiyio View Post
    Is the state trying to collect because the lesbian couple is getting some kind of state assistance? I can't think of any other reason they'd be trying to make him pay.
    Right, the lesbian couple have split and the birth mother is asking for welfare, the people at the state office helping her "coerced" her into revealing her baby-daddy.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    basically, state doesn't want to have to pay as much if they can force the guy to pay instead. Should be forcing the other mother, but she isn't recognized as being the other mother so they're going after the donator.


    shit's retarded, and further proves why we have to allow gay marriage + dual maternal/paternal rights to gay couples.

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    What kind of bitch leaves their lover who is with child? These are the real questions we should be asking! This would never have happened if it were a straight couple..

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    man I gotta start trolling Craiglist more often.

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