Pokemon X & Y (3DS)

**Serra** · 2013-10-31 21:06

Probably will just be released through mystery gift like the Torchic. Or possibly force you to go to gamestop or toysrus if they're feeling mean.

**Not Kuno** · 2013-10-31 21:09

Originally Posted by Genosync

There is like, no completely successful counter to Klefki at the moment. I was theorycrafting counters today and the only good counter to a Twave/Sub/Swagger/Foul Play Klefki is a Trick Choice Scarf from a Prankster Sableye which I'm not even sure 100% is available yet. I.E. Klefki is retarded. Not only that, but you have to pull that off before the Klefki gets a Sub up. I would honestly suggest a mixed defensive build Klefki with that move set, or use a Klefki as a screener.

Maybe a Mega Kanga? Double Fire Punch will hurt through sub just fine.

**Aylee** · 2013-10-31 21:42

Is whimsicott in the game atm? Need one for my team

**Genosync** · 2013-10-31 21:53

Originally Posted by Not Kuno

Maybe a Mega Kanga? Double Fire Punch will hurt through sub just fine.

Still highly unlikely as you'll have to punch through a Sub and Paralyze and Confuse in most situations, plus Mega Kanga's second same turn attack damage is halved, and with a single Swagger that pumps it to 1x strength, which is not going to OHKO Bulky Klefki.

It's a thought, but in the end you're opting for Mega Kangas instead of Gengar or something else too.

Could always Roar or Whirlwind a Klefki out with something that's Ground-typed though. That was the other thing we came up with. But until you can deal with that bitch itself... Yeah.

**Serra** · 2013-10-31 21:53

Originally Posted by Aylee

Is whimsicott in the game atm? Need one for my team

Not yet, unfortunately..

Originally Posted by Not Kuno

Maybe a Mega Kanga? Double Fire Punch will hurt through sub just fine.

Can Mega Kanga learn fire punch? If so, I might have to get one for Battle Maison.. Freaking Sylveons fill me with so much rage.........

**Genosync** · 2013-10-31 21:57

Originally Posted by Aylee

Is whimsicott in the game atm? Need one for my team

Negative.

**Genosync** · 2013-10-31 22:03

Originally Posted by Serra

Not yet, unfortunately..

Can Mega Kanga learn fire punch? If so, I might have to get one for Battle Maison.. Freaking Sylveons fill me with so much rage.........

Does not learn Fire Punch from anything in Gen6 and can't be bred onto. Just checked.

Better option would be Earthquake probably anyway.

You might still want to look elsewhere because Mega Kangas is still kind of slow (100 base) as far as sweeper Megas go. You could do Return, and it'd be one hit at 153pow and second hit at 76pow. It's not bad but it doesn't have very great coverage, and no real STAB weakness coverage at all.

**Silenka** · 2013-10-31 22:18

I can't decide if I want to do full, partial, or no Baton Pass with my lulz eeveelutions team. D: It seems pretty cool but doing a full baton pass seems to require a lot of complicated setup and a strong finisher, which none of them are XD

**Karbuncle** · 2013-10-31 22:25

So, anyone looked into including Mega Mawile in their team?

Bulbapedia Quote.

Mega Mawile has the highest Attack stat of any Pokémon, with a maximum of 678 (105 base Attack plus Huge Power). This is higher than the limit of 669 Attack (255 base Attack, as 255 is the highest possible 8-digit binary number), and would equal a Pokémon with 259 base Attack.

Shes slow, but has decent SP.DEF and good DEF... Has only 2 Weaknesses, Ground and fire, but 2 Immunities and 10 Resistances...

Admittedly she only gets like 2 Physical STAB moves that are decent. Iron Head and Play Rough (80/Steel, 90/Fairy respectively), But i imagine with attack like that she could make short work of most Walls, since most Walls are rather slow.

**Akiyama** · 2013-10-31 22:31

Mega Mawile will be alright. Would be a good counter fairy of sorts (with Iron head) but yeah. Huge power will be nice for it for sure. Maybe turn it into a setup-type since it's resistances are decent.

**Rocl** · 2013-10-31 22:31

Iron Head is steel type.

**Karbuncle** · 2013-10-31 22:32

Originally Posted by Rocl

Iron Head is steel type.

Its what i Meant, she is steel/Fairy and i mention it as a STAB.. I was just reading the Bulb page at the same time and my brain farted ;;

**Serra** · 2013-10-31 22:34

Hrmmmm.. that's really tempting to work on. I might have to replace Delphox on my team with her. Although, I'd lose access to fire moves.. might still be worth it.

**Genosync** · 2013-10-31 22:37

Mega Mawile is a very good late game cleanup sweeper that requires little to no setup. Get rid of its threats and you're probably fine.

**Yeager** · 2013-10-31 22:40

I'm talking to the guy who Judges your pokemon's IV, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he's saying. I've got a few Eevee and when I show them to him, I get the following.

Eevee #1 - Relatively superior potential overall, greatest potential is HP, but Attack stat is good too. This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #2 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #3 - Same as #2
Eevee #4 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, Although it's Sp. Atk is equally good. "Stats like those....They simply can't be beat!"

So with #4, is he saying the Eevee's HP and Sp. Atk are perfect IV? Or not quite? *sigh* someone educate a poor old fool.

**Silenka** · 2013-10-31 22:40

So a thought while looking at these movesets. Round (base power 60) increases in power to 120 if used consecutively by an ally.

If for example Vaporeon uses round then baton passes out (or even switches out normally) to Sylveon who then uses round (normal type attk) with pixilate ability, will round then be boosted past 120 or is it capped? Or is it a move that only works in a side-by-side double battle with pokes using it one after another?

**Souj** · 2013-10-31 22:43

Originally Posted by Yeager

I'm talking to the guy who Judges your pokemon's IV, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he's saying. I've got a few Eevee and when I show them to him, I get the following.

Eevee #1 - Relatively superior potential overall, greatest potential is HP, but Attack stat is good too. This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #2 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #3 - Same as #2
Eevee #4 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, Although it's Sp. Atk is equally good. "Stats like those....They simply can't be beat!"

So with #4, is he saying the Eevee's HP and Sp. Atk are perfect IV? Or not quite? *sigh* someone educate a poor old fool.

any stats he lists before "Stats like those....They simply can't be beat!" are perfect stats. "decent," "above Average," and "Outstanding," are how good the rest of the pokemon's combined unmentioned stats are.

**Karbuncle** · 2013-10-31 22:44

Originally Posted by Yeager

I'm talking to the guy who Judges your pokemon's IV, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he's saying. I've got a few Eevee and when I show them to him, I get the following.

Eevee #1 - Relatively superior potential overall, greatest potential is HP, but Attack stat is good too. This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #2 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, This Poke has fantastic stats.
Eevee #3 - Same as #2
Eevee #4 - Above Average potential, greatest potential is HP, Although it's Sp. Atk is equally good. "Stats like those....They simply can't be beat!"

So with #4, is he saying the Eevee's HP and Sp. Atk are perfect IV? Or not quite? *sigh* someone educate a poor old fool.

"Simply can't be beat" is 30/31 IV If Bulbapedia is accurate. Fantastic i think is 25-29?

If he mentions more than 1 they're tied.

**Genosync** · 2013-10-31 22:48

Shiyo: I just read you got the Dittos you needed so I sent you a 3IV and a 2IV(Naughty).

Let me know if you need something else.

**Yeager** · 2013-10-31 22:48

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

"Simply can't be beat" is 30/31 IV If Bulbapedia is accurate. Fantastic i think is 25-29?

If he mentions more than 1 they're tied.

So if I am understanding you correctly, Eevee #4 has perfect HP and Sp. Atk. IV while it's other stats are "Above Average"?

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