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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Also, stuff that works in Maison is not necessarily the best against real people. Don't use it as a benchmark.
    Oh I know - was just experimenting. The advice is helpful though, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    Oh I know - was just experimenting. The advice is helpful though, thanks.
    Probably better to theorycraft, then theorycraft counters and then post about it (like you did now). Maison is dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Probably better to theorycraft, then theorycraft counters and then post about it (like you did now). Maison is dumb.
    First team I was using was:

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    Wobbuffet (Lefties)
    +Def nature, HP and Def EV
    encore
    mirror coat
    counter
    safeguard

    Mega Blaziken
    Adamant
    protect
    SD
    Hi Jump Kick
    Flare Blitz

    Cloyster (King's Rock)
    Jolly Atk/Spe EV
    shell smash
    rock blast
    icicle spear
    hydro pump

    This team was kind of easy mode, using encore to set up and sweep. Wobb makes things really simple so I got tired of using him as a lead. Blaziken is a beast but also like to rape his own face with missed HJK, which are incredibly rage-inducing. Cloyster and Blaziken were kind of redundant since they are both mainly physical sweepers - eventually replaced razor shell with hydro pump which is much better.

    Didn't take long to notice a weakness to priority (hello aqua jet). Both sweepers being so fragile with weak defensive typings also meant a missed attack or non-OHKO and it's over.

    Tried a choice specs Starmie to good effect also but missed hydro pumps still drive me nuts. Natural cure is a godsend of an ability.

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    Hydro Pump and Fire Blast got hit hard this gen. Really sucks. They weren't overpowered in any way and got hit with a nerf. Oh well.

    Another Maison solution is Scarf'd Truant Durant, but anything that Protects on turn one shuts down the Entrainment -> Buff/Pass -> Sweep strat, so some people did like Klefki-Durant-MegaGyara. Mega Gyara can put up Sub, Protect, DD, and Waterfall. Sub protects against the OHKOs. It's incredibly boring and incredibly slow.

    Maison is so dumb. If I cared enough I'd do that method to 200 but it wasn't worth it to me. I kept falling asleep. Lol

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    Tyranitr is better than Gyarados because of water absorb. To avoid prot, can start with Alakazham -- knock off, encore, die and swap in durant.

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    Mold Breaker from Mega Gyara gets rid of Water Absorb. Still, I'd probably like your idea more. What move are you using with TTar though?

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    If anybody who has any Extra BP, I need razor fang and Razor Claw. But I'm not one of the competitive players and its so slow doing the low level ones.

    I can breed almost any pokemon in the game except for some Generation 5 ones.

    Edit: Never bothered with IVs or natures. I mostly just collect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    If anybody who has any Extra BP, I need razor fang and Razor Claw. But I'm not one of the competitive players and its so slow doing the low level ones.

    I can breed almost any pokemon in the game except for some Generation 5 ones.
    Have anything ready for trade? Or can you make a list of what you can breed up quickly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Have anything ready for trade? Or can you make a list of what you can breed up quickly?
    I can breed anything generation 1-4 and generation 6. Gen 5 i can do quite a few but i'm missing things like lillipup, zebstrikia, palpitoad, rufflet, etc. Really any gen 5 safari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    I can breed anything generation 1-4 and generation 6. Gen 5 i can do quite a few but i'm missing things like lillipup, zebstrikia, palpitoad, rufflet, etc. Really any gen 5 safari.
    Are you talking 5IVs or just whatevers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Are you talking 5IVs or just whatevers?
    Sorry buddy. Just whatever. I'm more into collecting than training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    Sorry buddy. Just whatever. I'm more into collecting than training.
    I can't really part with 48+48 BP for non-comp stuff like that since I'm pretty much over doing the Maison now. Sorry =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    I can't really part with 48+48 BP for non-comp stuff like that since I'm pretty much over doing the Maison now. Sorry =/
    NP. Just throwing it out there.

    Edit: realized my first post. I quoted you. Didn't mean to do that lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardrial View Post
    NP. Just throwing it out there.
    You could do the Battle Institute for BP. It's not that bad for building BP if you're not really wanting to get into the metagame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Then what's worth wearing that's "stylish" as far as lumiose city idiots are concerned?

    Because the outfit as a whole is not awful. The hat alone, ok. The hat with the shirt? Amazing. Shirt makes the hat. Get with it.
    The snow city sells these real cool Hoodies. Im partial to the Green Hoodie+Green Camo Pants/GreenCamo Hatthing myself.. Though i got a RDM thing going on with Red Fedora/RedFeather(Wantwhite;/things

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    Denmork, Ardrial and Hitou's Sister would be willing to add me, I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to farm a few of your Ghost types.

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    Battle Institute best for building BP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Battle Institute best for building BP?
    Definitely not, Super Singles if you can get to 30+ is better and 50+ is way, way better. But for someone that just wants to collect and not fite, Institute is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    Personally it takes the fun out of the game when their entire strategy relies on confusion proc or paralysis proc. First battle ended up close but opponent had an easy type advantage in our 1v1. Second one was just terrible... fucking substitute Klefki. Klefki could be deleted from the game and I really wouldn't mind.
    Hax can be suffering, and Klefki is ideal for it.

    Talonflame with no item
    Adamant with Atk and Spe EV
    acrobatics
    roost (rarely have a chance to use it, up for suggestions)
    flare blitz
    U-Turn
    Talonflame is a gun, You fire off it's Blitz/Brave Bird bullets and once the clip's empty, off you go. What you can do if you want to plow through regardless is say "fuck that" to Acrobatics and swap into Brave Bird...and use a Lum berry. They try and parafuse you, you Lum it right off and plow into them anyway. Alternatively, really tick off Klefki users and switch from Vaporeon to Quagsire. Nice and bulky, happily throws burn and recovery around, tells Thunder Wave to fuck off because Ground-type and can use Recover via breeding, plus it also gives no shits about stat boosting with Unaware. Give it Lum, STAB Earthquake it in the face, watch Klefki learn the meaning of suffering. Plus, it bypasses most walling in general, because Unaware.

    Alternatively, give it Assault Vest to shore up it's SDef and Scald/EQuake/Stone Edge/attack of choice, and yes it can learn Ice Beam. Sure it hates Grass types, but your other two Pokes are death to anything that grows between STAB U-Turns, STAB F.Blitz, and STAB priority Flying-move-of-choice.

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    I can give 'em to ya, Ardrial.. I've got like 2k+.. If you've got a Chansey and Manectric, that'd be fantastic. I'm currently playing through a round, so whenever you want them, send me a PM and I'll get the items and start a trade with ya.

    I'm using Crunch on Tyranitar, nothing can absorb it and nothing is immune to Dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    I can give 'em to ya, Ardrial.. I've got like 2k+.. If you've got a Chansey and Manectric, that'd be fantastic. I'm currently playing through a round, so whenever you want them, send me a PM and I'll get the items and start a trade with ya.

    I'm using Crunch on Tyranitar, nothing can absorb it and nothing is immune to Dark.
    Thanks Serra. You rock. Saved me so much time.

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