Pokemon X & Y (3DS)

**Genosync** · 2013-12-01 18:45

Thanks Serra!

**Souj** · 2013-12-01 18:55

Destiny Knot guarantees 5 stats to from either of the parents to transfer over to the offspring. That is correct, yes?
Because I'm trying to figure out how a parent with 6IV and a parent with 5IV has offspring with a roughly 40% chance to have 4IV and the only way I can think it happens is that it can pick the same stat twice from both parents? Like the baby would get HP, ATK, DEF, SATK and then for the fifth it picks the SATK from the other parent as well leaving SDEF and SPEED to be given at random?
And another observation I find odd is; my 5IV parent is missing perfect SPEED. Together with my 6IV parent, the offspring they breed is missing SPEED 90% of the time whereas two 5IV parents are a lot more random.

**Roundelk** · 2013-12-01 18:56

Originally Posted by Kirin

I'm assuming thats one of the better natures for a Protean Froakie to run. I keep seeing Naive or Hasty but i dont understand the lowering of def or s def.

Naive and Hasty are used for a setup that involves U-Turn with some EV invested in ATT, also I do not agree with Modest being the best while it looks great on paper that would case quite a few speedy and scarfed pokemon to outspeed your Greninja which means he will die before he can do anything. Greninja is very powerful. The ability Protean is ridiculous and with a life orb Greninja's attacks that are neutral are basically non-STAB super effective attacks!

**Khajit** · 2013-12-01 19:06

Since I didn't see it mentioned and didn't want to say anything until i personally tried rated battles to at least confirm this partially. All rated battles are currently down due to battle analyzer spam. Basically the battles are unencrypted so cheating bastards are looking at your moves in order to cheat and always do the exact thing needed to beat you. The game also doesn't double check what moves you started the fight with so they can basically use moves that their Pokemon didn't learn if they need to. Gamefreak didn't do anything until it started spreading like wildfire in Japan.

**Genosync** · 2013-12-01 19:11

Originally Posted by Khajit

Since I didn't see it mentioned and didn't want to say anything until i personally tried rated battles to at least confirm this partially. All rated battles are currently down due to battle analyzer spam. Basically the battles are unencrypted so cheating bastards are looking at your moves in order to cheat and always do the exact thing needed to beat you. The game also doesn't double check what moves you started the fight with so they can basically use moves that their Pokemon didn't learn if they need to. Gamefreak didn't do anything until it started spreading like wildfire in Japan.

I doubt there'll ever be a permanent fix. I hope they don't touch Shiny Value crap with whatever update they put out.

Also I think this will be the first 3DS game with two or more updates. Pretty sweet.

**Moss** · 2013-12-01 19:14

Originally Posted by Khajit

Since I didn't see it mentioned and didn't want to say anything until i personally tried rated battles to at least confirm this partially. All rated battles are currently down due to battle analyzer spam. Basically the battles are unencrypted so cheating bastards are looking at your moves in order to cheat and always do the exact thing needed to beat you. The game also doesn't double check what moves you started the fight with so they can basically use moves that their Pokemon didn't learn if they need to. Gamefreak didn't do anything until it started spreading like wildfire in Japan.

I will blame all of my losses on this

**Genosync** · 2013-12-01 19:23

I've been convinced of this Hasty/Naive Froakie stuff and will be making it. Someone tossed a Uturn from a ninja at me yesterday that took off more health than I thought it should, and still was wrecking anyway.

**Roundelk** · 2013-12-01 19:46

Originally Posted by Genosync

I've been convinced of this Hasty/Naive Froakie stuff and will be making it. Someone tossed a Uturn from a ninja at me yesterday that took off more health than I thought it should, and still was wrecking anyway.

Don't forget that Greninja's Attack is only slightly lower than his Special attack and is very usable, the only problem is his physical movepool isn't very good.

**Serra** · 2013-12-01 20:08

Originally Posted by Souj

Destiny Knot guarantees 5 stats to from either of the parents to transfer over to the offspring. That is correct, yes?
Because I'm trying to figure out how a parent with 6IV and a parent with 5IV has offspring with a roughly 40% chance to have 4IV and the only way I can think it happens is that it can pick the same stat twice from both parents? Like the baby would get HP, ATK, DEF, SATK and then for the fifth it picks the SATK from the other parent as well leaving SDEF and SPEED to be given at random?
And another observation I find odd is; my 5IV parent is missing perfect SPEED. Together with my 6IV parent, the offspring they breed is missing SPEED 90% of the time whereas two 5IV parents are a lot more random.

Yes, that is correct about Destiny Knot. If the father is H,A,D,SA,SD,S and the mother is H,A,D,SA,SD then it could pull Speed from the mother and random one of the others to get 4IV.

**Not Kuno** · 2013-12-01 20:39

Originally Posted by Khajit

Since I didn't see it mentioned and didn't want to say anything until i personally tried rated battles to at least confirm this partially. All rated battles are currently down due to battle analyzer spam. Basically the battles are unencrypted so cheating bastards are looking at your moves in order to cheat and always do the exact thing needed to beat you. The game also doesn't double check what moves you started the fight with so they can basically use moves that their Pokemon didn't learn if they need to. Gamefreak didn't do anything until it started spreading like wildfire in Japan.

Is this why? Jesus christ. X and Y have so many fucked up bugs. It's easier to get shinys legit in X Y then in GSC and that's saying something.

**Hitou** · 2013-12-02 06:21

Finally got a shiny vulpix! Only took 840ish eggs to get it... like 1700 if you include the 900 from White 2 I hatched also. Everything capped but speed. Oh well, I'm happy.

**Dominico** · 2013-12-02 09:40

I keep reading that restaurant fights are the best way to gain XP/Cash, but which restaurant is the best option? And is there a specific type of battle in there I should look for?

**Genosync** · 2013-12-02 10:00

Originally Posted by Dominico

I keep reading that restaurant fights are the best way to gain XP/Cash, but which restaurant is the best option? And is there a specific type of battle in there I should look for?

I just spam 'le Wow when I'm really going for XP. I usually do Doubles just because I'm lazy. Triples would, naturally, net you more XP per run.

If I really want to level something fast, I stick it in second/third slot and give it Protect.

**Souj** · 2013-12-02 10:02

Restaurant le wow triple battle.
first two pokemon have as the ones that can kick a lot of ass, third spot goes to the pokemon you want leveled and equip with lucky egg. Use O. Power lv3 exp and lv1 prize. Most pokemon go from lv 1 to 48 in one visit.
Costs 100k to enter but with the prize mone you get and the balm mushrooms you get at the end, you'll have a profit of 150-200k

**Genosync** · 2013-12-02 10:46

Sumiko:

Your stuff's almost ready. Just need to make the Poli. I'm guessing I'll be done later tonight. But no rush.

**Dominico** · 2013-12-02 11:43

Originally Posted by Genosync

I just spam 'le Wow when I'm really going for XP. I usually do Doubles just because I'm lazy. Triples would, naturally, net you more XP per run.

If I really want to level something fast, I stick it in second/third slot and give it Protect.

Originally Posted by Souj

Restaurant le wow triple battle.
first two pokemon have as the ones that can kick a lot of ass, third spot goes to the pokemon you want leveled and equip with lucky egg. Use O. Power lv3 exp and lv1 prize. Most pokemon go from lv 1 to 48 in one visit.
Costs 100k to enter but with the prize mone you get and the balm mushrooms you get at the end, you'll have a profit of 150-200k

Thanks, I'll give it a shot later on.

**Moss** · 2013-12-02 13:07

Or you can do rotation battle so you don't have to worry about saving a slot for protect. Can level two low-level pokes at the same time that way too.

**Genosync** · 2013-12-02 14:06

Sumiko:

All three of your requests are ready, and all three are Female too for easily breeding more.

**Khajit** · 2013-12-02 14:46

Originally Posted by Dominico

I keep reading that restaurant fights are the best way to gain XP/Cash, but which restaurant is the best option? And is there a specific type of battle in there I should look for?

Le wow like the others said. Sushi high roller however is the best for converting cash into pure exp so go there if you have alot of money to burn. I also have a happy hour smeargle i need to level. It's basically 2x prize money and stacks with everything else that increases pokeyen. I'll try to eventually remember to produce more of them for you guys eventually if can.

**Serra** · 2013-12-02 15:27

Don't forget to equip Luck Incense and an Amulet Coin on the ones without the Lucky Egg. I only do Rotation Battles (which are down to 90k) and I make over the entry cost like that.

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