Pokemon X & Y (3DS)

[Dominico]

Aegislash had way too many possibilities to even start discussing. Check the opening post at Smogon for some good ideas.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/aegislash.3489876/

It all depends on the role you need it to fill to round out the team.

Thanks, noticed the first post was basically the same moveset I had. Was looking at making it more a phys def tank, so I'd guess swap Brave with Relaxed. It has more than enough bulk to stay in and get 1 or 2 Swords Dances in, so I guess the extra Def from the nature would help out. Think I'll do max HP/DEF for EVs then toss the remainder into SPDEF or ATT.

[Kyreth]

So the next thing I'm going to try to make is an Aegislash. Was thinking Brave nature, Shadow Sneak, Sacred Sword, Swords Dance, Kings Shield. No clue what to do for EVs other than max HP since I want to make it sorta tankish. Halp!

You've got the right idea in saying "Meh" to speed there, as negative speed nature + 0 EV's is about as glacial as it'll get, meaning even with Shadow Sneak, your priority will pretty much go off after everyone else's and give you the benefit of taking more hits on your Shield (and King's Shield will out-prioritize any attacks, letting you swap easily). Where you put any other defensive EVs is going to depend on what you fear more. Opposing Shadow Balls or stuff like Sucker Punch/Earthquakes? I'd say 240 Def/16 SpDef or the reverse, depending on what you run into more, since Shield Form's defensive bases are so high that you're having to put a lot into EV's to see notable improvements. I tend to see more people slinging Earthquakes at mine, and that's the moveset I use to boot.

Edit: You can go +Def/SpDef nature, but I prefer letting Aegislash deliver as harsh a hit as possible. The low base HP makes it tough to truly tank with it in any case even with HP EV's, as it's predictable and prone to being non-contact attacked as a result.

Also, consider Weakness Policy. Nothing like taking a turn to SD up, watching someone slap you with a SE hit on your defensive mode, then countering with a +4 Shadow Sneak/Sacred Sword to the face instead of a +2.

[Dominico]

You got me thinking about the nature. This is seriously one of the only times where I've been up in the air as to how I want to build a Poke rofl

[Kyreth]

You got me thinking about the nature. This is seriously one of the only times where I've been up in the air as to how I want to build a Poke rofl

Aegislash is one of those Gen VI Pokemon that really invite you to do that, since it's got a lot of effective options and items due to it's really unique stat-swapping tricks.

[asyla]

I do max attack max hp on my physical one, make it so you still do decent damage before swords dance.

[Odin'sLaw]

So the next thing I'm going to try to make is an Aegislash. Was thinking Brave nature, Shadow Sneak, Sacred Sword, Swords Dance, Kings Shield. No clue what to do for EVs other than max HP since I want to make it sorta tankish. Halp!

build it Special attack, you'll be shocked how many people get wrecked by shadow ball because there expecting only physical same with mega lucario have him nasty plot aura sphere flash cannon and w/e 4th move you feel like for a head spinner

[Kyreth]

build it Special attack, you'll be shocked how many people get wrecked by shadow ball because there expecting only physical same with mega lucario have him nasty plot aura sphere flash cannon and w/e 4th move you feel like for a head spinner

Case in point, mixed Aegislash is not only viable but effective, even if his physical moves are a deeper movepool to work with vs. it's special-based ones. 150 SpAtk STAB Shadow Ball even without invested EV's or stat boosts rip things up, and Automatize + Weakness Policy for a mixed set can deliver pain. Flash Cannon's the only really decent other SpAtk option right now, but 80 BP STAB isn't crappy if you're not boosting stats anyway, easily comparable with Iron Head (though with Auto, it can actually be fast enough to get flinches on some stuff, you might find the combination of SpDef down attacks useful instead for wearing something down.).

Shield/Dance/Sacred Sword/Shadow Sneak is the "classic" Aegislash set though. Predictable, yet powerful and with broad type coverage, and it gives you that ability to form-shift when needed or desired and a priority attack that's oft-craved in Gen VI fights.

I do max attack max hp on my physical one, make it so you still do decent damage before swords dance.

The only reason I dread this (higher ATK) is when I get pimp-slapped by a Mandibuzz or other Foul Play user. That shit stings even if I'm in Shield Form getting my Dance on.

[Dominico]

Most of the offense I run is usually Special, so was trying to build up something physical for a change. As of now I'm down to either Brave/Relaxed, but leaning more towards Brave since this thing is already bulky enough in Shield mode. Would def dump all EVs into defense, though. Might drop in Shadow Ball, but don't know what move I'd drop for it. And yea, already have a SpAtt Lucario and people usually don't expect it.

Next Poke I'll work on is probably Tyranitar. Rarely use Stealth Rock, but it seems like a good lead. EQ/Crunch/SR/Roar was what I was thinking, probably Careful nature?

[Akiyama]

Be sure you don't focus too heavily on just special offense or it'll easily be walled by many of the special walls out there.

[Dominico]

Be sure you don't focus too heavily on just special offense or it'll easily be walled by many of the special walls out there.

Yea, that the main reason I'm trying to breed up more phys attackers and tanks/walls. Think the only non-special attackers I have are Goodra (Modest, but EV'd as a special wall), Gyarados and Electivire. Everything else is basically a glass cannon.

[Odin'sLaw]

Most of the offense I run is usually Special, so was trying to build up something physical for a change. As of now I'm down to either Brave/Relaxed, but leaning more towards Brave since this thing is already bulky enough in Shield mode. Would def dump all EVs into defense, though. Might drop in Shadow Ball, but don't know what move I'd drop for it. And yea, already have a SpAtt Lucario and people usually don't expect it.

Next Poke I'll work on is probably Tyranitar. Rarely use Stealth Rock, but it seems like a good lead. EQ/Crunch/SR/Roar was what I was thinking, probably Careful nature?

i have some DD SR 4iv larvitars if you want a nicer starting point

[Dominico]

i have some DD SR 4iv larvitars if you want a nicer starting point

Yea, would actually help alot. I'll give you an add later tonight.

[Sumiko]

aweee man And here I thought the BP from Battle Maison will go up every 10 rounds... Does it really only cap at 7? I hope it goes to 10 at 100+

[Serra]

No, caps at 7.

[Souj]

Maaan I messed up bad at #48 on battle maison. I ended up with Choice Band Garchomp as my only pokemon and the AI had 2, one was some legendary green deer looking dude who destroyed my other 2 pokemon. I used earthquake on it which killed it, but then the next pokemon the AI sent out had Levitate

[Genosync]

Maaan I messed up bad at #48 on battle maison. I ended up with Choice Band Garchomp as my only pokemon and the AI had 2, one was some legendary green deer looking dude who destroyed my other 2 pokemon. I used earthquake on it which killed it, but then the next pokemon the AI sent out had Levitate

Wouldn't recommend Choice items in Maison. The AI eventually counters it really really hard. I'd say around 30-40 it starts to amp up.

I can also say slight changes to your move set will affect what you see. I changed my Talonflame from Uturn and Swords Dance, to Roost and Bulk Up, and the types and builds of teams the AI used changed drastically. It's weird. I hate Maison.

I'll have some Starfs for trading in 4 days. I think I tossed you a Lansat already but I can't remember. If you can round up a perfect 5IV I don't have yet (the list has grown drastically) I'll toss you one then.

Let me know if you want the list and I'll PM it to you. That goes for anyone, by the way.

I also use Instacheck now so I can get you something in Egg form so that you can nickname it if you want.

[Genosync]

Can anyone do a trade with me so I can instacheck ~30 eggs like right now? Put something in the trade window that you've hatched and I can tell you your Trainer Shiny Value too. I'll toss you a perfect 5IV Drain Punch, Dry Skin Croagunk in egg form for your troubles.

[Odin'sLaw]

Can anyone do a trade with me so I can instacheck ~30 eggs like right now? Put something in the trade window that you've hatched and I can tell you your Trainer Shiny Value too. I'll toss you a perfect 5IV Drain Punch, Dry Skin Croagunk in egg form for your troubles.

still need a hand?

[Genosync]

Nah but ill try to toss you one another time. Doing stuff with wife now

[Odin'sLaw]

Nah but ill try to toss you one another time. Doing stuff with wife now

np, playing bravely default atm so kinda zoning in and out of watching bg