Neverwinter

**Gulkeeva** · 2013-05-15 10:08

Originally Posted by Kiarax

As strong as it is single target I get so bored playing it compared to my GWF. Fighting large groups of mobs on it feels like a chore compared to plowing through everything all at once. Did some T2 epics today and I realllly don't think I'll enjoy them on rogue. But at least it means I can go full PvP spec without worry. Bigger numbers aside do you find the higher level skills more fun? I imagine the feat that reduces CD on encounters will make it more enjoyable but the actual encounter skills just sound... meh.

From what I hear, you can get the daily down to 8 seconds with recovery and some of the feat's on rogue. As for group fighting, I've not had an issue with it. I tend to just aggro mobs and wait for them to funnel toward me, hit that daze attack, and it hits them all. As for instances, can usually take an elite down within seconds.

GWF looks like he's having fun.. kicking/knockdown? a mob around making them flop everywhere out of my range though! (man i remember people complaining about CW tossing mobs around somewhere) >.>

Anyway, I think the feats make the class more interesting then the skills...
Theirs like +25% crit damage bonus stealthed, +15% for duelest strike usage and then +10% severity after shocking execution. Add in + the 200% damage bonus of shocking execution from low hp (very nice for bosses) or lurker assault for a lot of elites, and its pretty much rape everywhere. (my rogues at like 47% crit).

Stealthed duelest strike with lurker assault is like 2,000-3,000 damage crits X 6-8 hits or whatever it is that move does and a bleed of like 2,000-3,000+ crits.

I'll probably put points into cunning stalker feat (increases action point gain stealthed 20%) and the class skill tactics (like +15% more action points gain?) and go for crit/power/recovery gear, and aim for the 8 second action bar fill for a rape fest with the daily skill that could literally keep up lurker assaults +80% damage full time too (and stealth). Thats probably how rogues are doing those 14K bleed tick's

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-15 13:17

Full stealh rogue is OP as fuck, on one of my first epic spellplague runs, the group wiped to the last boss at 10% HP, only the rogue survived. He solo'd the boss while kiting 20+ adds for that 10% by himself. He basically run around in circle kiting the adds while waiting for his stealth meter to go up, then stealh and DPS boss. rinse+repeat.

**Gulkeeva** · 2013-05-15 13:20

Originally Posted by SamanosukeShiva

Full stealh rogue is OP as fuck, on one of my first epic spellplague runs, the group wiped to the last boss at 10% HP, only the rogue survived. He solo'd the boss while kiting 20+ adds for that 10% by himself. He basically run around in circle kiting the adds while waiting for his stealth meter to go up, then stealh and DPS boss. rinse+repeat.

Yeah, stealth is pretty OP, some monster AI's still attack, but at a random direction. And speced execution, you do a noticeably large amount of damage stealthed (and an obscene amount with lurker assault for like a good 6-8second stealth, you could technically perm stealth in this way with enough recovery and the right feat on a boss)

also...
Combat

Fixed an issue where the Guardian Fighter was able to do significantly more damage than was intended.

I keep watching for a rogue nerf O_o

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-15 18:31

that bug was insane, 4p guardian set gives like 1 million power, and GF was able to 1 shot bosses.

On the other news. I cleared Castle Never twice, with a legit group, no bugging, no real money item, cleared the whole thing in 2.5 hours.

**Zzsark** · 2013-05-15 19:00

Which server are you on?

Also when it refers to 'powers' for set bonuses what exactly is it referring to?

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-15 20:04

mindflayer server.
power i think just refer to skills in general, encounter/at will/daily, not 100% sure though, depend on the context.

**XalienLevi** · 2013-05-16 13:48

Unfortunately this game has become unplayable for me. It was running great the first week but after one of the patches I've been experiencing hitching every few moments with the game completely locking up during dungeon encounters and during PVP. A real shame. They are collecting dxdiags in the tech support forums but have not responded in any official capacity to these issues many of us are having. Guess I'll just level professions on the gateway and find something else to play in the meantime. It's been fun.

EDIT: a fix has been found. Uncheck your compatibility box o_O

**Kryssan** · 2013-05-17 01:01

I've actually been enjoying playing this game. Playing as a GF on Beholder, tanking gets out of hand towards the end. Right now I'm at 57 on Hotenow and soloing PVE is annoying as all hell. I can still hold hate in the leveling up dungeons but it involves a lot of zipping around, at least Threatening Rush and the Stab Action move let you zip pretty well.

I do wish they'd not be so crazy about the game store prices and bring back controller ( official ) support. It had it once upon a time, and the engine also supports it. I don't know why they got rid of it, but I prefer playing my MMOs with a controller.

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-17 01:33

once you're lv60, it's gonna be insanely hard to hold aggro, most GF just go straight DPS build and it's actually working really well.

**Gulkeeva** · 2013-05-17 02:13

Yeah.. damage for all classes goes waaay up (also like the match maker still doing all rogue groups no tank or healer for heroics) >.>

I've only had one GFW come close (once I got epic weapons anyway). He sure did love kicking stuff around, think he macroed or whatever "THIS IS SPARTA" every time he booted a mob off a cliff (he'd intentionally drag stuff to the ledge to do that) ;/ Was afraid to duelest strike them I might go flying off the side too

**Dead Phoenix** · 2013-05-17 02:20

Yeah, just hit level 50 on my rogue tonight, but I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea at some point to respec my feats(that final saboteur paragon feat btw... loving it) and ditch all the threat reduction stuff. Either someone is out damaging me and I'm not getting hate or I'm doing ridiculous damage and don't even care because the cleric and heal pots(and dodging of course, lots of dodging) are enough to keep me alive(barring I'm not doing anything stupid). It is gonna be awhile before I can do that though, hopefully by then I'll have a better idea of how hate works.

Also, might as well mention, I got a CW on mindflayer(rogue is on dragon and i really do not feel like starting over, despite how much i enjoy the class) and wouldn't mind getting a guild invite sometime(i expected to some friends of a friend to start a guild but it does not seem that is gonna be the case...). Name is Trixie@deadphoenix3

**Gulkeeva** · 2013-05-17 04:37

I have no points in threat, and I don't really have an issue with it. The only time I get threat is when new adds spawn (or we got adds) and I'm ressing my pet healer, that heal draws aggro.

Between stealth and lurker assault, its enough to to not have a boss really look at me usually, then again most groups have no tank, so some rogue is tanking. Randomly, hard to tell at times if shocking strike or using lethal assaults stealth damage buff is better on bosses... (at low hp).
Rolling out massive bleed ticks and massive crits from duelest + bleed it can do with lethal assault stealth buff seems much more...damage then shocking ;/

My Lethal strike does a large amount of damage as is, comparable to shocking strike already (as long as I'm stealthed anyway)

**Zzsark** · 2013-05-17 12:28

What's the rule with dungeon delve chests. If its a T1 can you get any T1 piece of gear out of it or does it match up with what the dungeon boss drops? Same for T2?

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-17 23:33

p. much, though I've gotten T1 item from T2 chest, and T1/T2 item from T3 chest, as a matter of fact, I've never gotten a T3 item from T3 chest.

**Dimmauk** · 2013-05-18 14:35

Just started playing, I got a character on mindflayer and one on beholder.

**Kuishen** · 2013-05-19 00:50

Can somebody link me to this perma-stealth rogue build? I have a feeling I'm going to have to respec my feats for it so I wanna take care of that as soon as possible since every feat point ups the cost by like 2k AD. My powers /should/ be ok.

**Gulkeeva** · 2013-05-19 04:42

Originally Posted by Kuishen

Can somebody link me to this perma-stealth rogue build? I have a feeling I'm going to have to respec my feats for it so I wanna take care of that as soon as possible since every feat point ups the cost by like 2k AD. My powers /should/ be ok.

I haven't bothered with it myself but its pretty much juggling skills to keep up stealth almost full time.

I spam too many abilities though to keep that going and don't really want to pay to respec, so meh. The build I got works well, and I'm starting tog et some decent gear on it...!

Just love watching near 35% hp of an elite Lv60 mob's hp go in 1 shot

Spoiler: show

**Ghost_Wheel22** · 2013-05-19 14:11

Oh my, the last 12 hours have been very interesting. Cats, AD, gateway exploits, oh my!

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-05-19 15:04

what was the bugs?

**Kiarax** · 2013-05-19 15:09

Just to update those who don't know what's going on:

There was a massive, game breaking exploit discovered last night that enabled literally anyone to make billions of astral diamonds in mere minutes. It required logging on to the web interface auction house, and bidding a negative amount of AD on an item. You would then receive that amount of AD in a positive amount, plus the item.

Probably hundreds of billions of AD was "created" magically by players, who then proceeded to wreak havoc on the economy by buying all the high priced AD items and giving them away for free (cats), or converting it to Zen and then buying all the high priced Zen items and giving them away for free (pets, mounts, etc).

They disabled the auction house and ad/zen converter a few hours ago, but left the servers up. People continued to give their ill gotten gains away to anyone and everyone who asked for hours until Cryptic addressed the situation.

Servers are down now. Nobody knows if there will be a full wipe, a rollback, or if nothing will happen.

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