2012-13 NFL Conference Championships: Pete Carroll is Lennay Kekua

[archibaldcrane]

1. This makes no sense. You're reaching

sure it does

joe flacco has the stats of a good QB in 1950 - passer rating right below Otto Graham, for example

if you think he's good today, you'd then assume that QB play hasn't improved

makes perfect sense

[Conrad]

flacco has gotten better this year (specifically in the offseason), but that doesn't change the fact that his DVOA has him as practically league average for his career

[Xajii]

if you think he's good today, you'd then assume that QB play hasn't improved

I'm not an idiotic Homer. Just because I like my.Superbowl bound team's starting quarterbacks doesn't mean I don't recognize his career Cam Cameron chained numbers or use him as a baseline to judge QB talent. For fucks sake. Not everyone is as glued to their QB's cock as you are

[Krandor]

Why do people (ok Archie) still pretend that QB Rating is a meaningful stat?

[archibaldcrane]

Why do people (ok Archie) still pretend that QB Rating is a meaningful stat?

why do you think that having a high YPA, high TD%, high completion% and low INT% are meaningless?

[archibaldcrane]

I'm not an idiotic Homer. Just because I like my.Superbowl bound team's starting quarterbacks doesn't mean I don't recognize his career Cam Cameron chained numbers or use him as a baseline to judge QB talent. For fucks sake. Not everyone is as glued to their QB's cock as you are

mad

[Rhinox]

Cam Cameron chained numbers? Cam on

Actually you're right. Cause now that I think about it Jay Cutler has had an amazing career thus far despite his Mike martz/tice chained numbers

[Tweek]

it's def a guideline, but if it was the only way to judge a QB than Alex Smith would be considered top tier this year lol

[Krandor]

why do you think that having a high YPA, high TD%, high completion% and low INT% are meaningless?

Sorry, forgot that QBR doesn't exist.

[archibaldcrane]

why do you think that having a high YPA, high TD%, high completion% and low INT% are meaningless?

I just use passer rating because it's easier than saying

Out of all QBs in the Superbowl era, Aaron Rodgers is #1 all time in career YPA, TD%, INT%, and #2 in completion%.

[Rhinox]

Why do people (ok Archie) still pretend that QB Rating is a meaningful stat?

Cause it actually is.


Qbr has been a miserable failure that not even espn analyst's use when breaking down games.


Is it perfect? No but it still effective in determining how well a qb plays

[archibaldcrane]

Sorry, forgot that QBR doesn't exist.

why is QBR superior to DVOA?

[Krandor]

Cause it actually is.


Qbr has been a miserable failure that not even espn analyst's use when breaking down games.

Actually being serious here, not a big fan of watching analysis. How has QBR been a failure?

[archibaldcrane]

Sorry, forgot that QBR doesn't exist.

look if you want me to use QBR to show that flacco is mediocre i'll do it

i just don't feel that it's necessary

[Xajii]

I think QBR is fine to look at but not to herald. It is obvious to any football fan that there will probably never be an end-all state for quarterbacks. You develop your opinion on their performance hy watching. Did he audible into a run play at the right time? Was that incompletion the fault of.the receiver or was it a bad throw? Is the play calling appropriate to.the QB's strengths?

beyond that some playing styles wwill make your qbr or passer rating high while others wont but it doesn't really mean one doesn't work.

Archi can hold onto Rodgers qbr that's fine, he's a damn good qb and that's a good state to show it. Its just not a great qb ranking system overall same as passer rating or total yardage isn't.

[Rhinox]

it's def a guideline, but if it was the only way to judge a QB than Alex Smith would be considered top tier this year lol

You can't argue he wasn't for 6 games

[Krandor]

You can't argue he wasn't for 6 games

Was more like 2.5 games

[Rhinox]

Actually being serious here, not a big fan of watching analysis. How has QBR been a failure?

No one outside of the stat heads on espn.com aka the guys who made it up actually use it. Stats Inc and pff don't even touch it.

[Xajii]

look if you want me to use QBR to show that flacco is mediocre i'll do it

i just don't feel that it's necessary

Show me qbr stats for.Flacco since cam Cameron was fired (I believe this occurred after the loss to the Redskins)

Not trying.to boast or prove a point but honestly curious and would appreciate iif you could find it

Also, isn't passer rating the one that is a.failure? I'm getting confused now.

[Rhinox]

Was more like 2.5 games

Yeah he was terrible. You gotta be terrible with his abysmal completion percentage