Pentagon to Lift Ban on Women Serving in Combat

[archibaldcrane]

Your point was something completely fucking irrelevant lol.

[Andalusian girls]

not to mention the blatant misuse of the word dichotomy even when given a second chance in an effort to lend intellectual respectability to an inane statement

buy a dictionary nigga

[Churchill]

where is the OP with his crazy ideas

[Lordender]

Two is a football squad now, apparently.

My offspring aside, I did serve. I agree that if the women in combat units can be kept exactly 100% equal with absolutely no differences between them and the men in the unit, then yes, it might work. But I can't see it happening this way because this country is far too hung up on political correctness to allow something like women sharing showers with men.

Lol men and women equality cannot and should not ever be mentioned in the same sentence. I'm sure some feminist or whiteknight/mangina is going to call me misogynistic but we're not equals by any means under the law. Laws heavily favor women in every nook and turn possible and I would even goes as far as to say equality under the law is a joke, especially for men. While I will agree separate showers should be included to cut down possible shenanigans but that is where the separated should stop.

If women want to sign up for combat duty and blow shit up, let them, as long as they pass whatever requirements to be able to pull their own weight in combat. I just have to laugh at all the random women the media has interviewed since this news has come down the pipeline and almost everyone of them is against women in combat.

So let me get this straight for those women who are opposed to women in combat, now correct me if I'm wrong. It is perfectly ok for men to be disposable cannon fodder that excludes the "now equal woman" because women are equals until "shit hits the fan" and this is why men get sent into burning buildings to die when terrorist attacks happen or men go get blown up in war but the "now equal women can't". Through Afghanistan and Iraqi conflicts, 97% of deaths were men, 3% were women.

Men and Women aren't even close to being equal under the eyes of the law, look no further than the corrupt family court systems that heavily favor women when no-fault divorce came about. Talk about abortion rights, men have no rights at all once a woman becomes pregnant, a man should be able to legally walk away if he doesn't want to be a father just like a woman can legally abort the child should she not want to be a mother.

This whole farce about women not being able to perform in combat is just idiotic when I hear arguments against women in combat. Women have proven just as capable and lethal as men when it comes to violent behavior, men and women are about equal in domestic violence cases except there is no abuse shelters for men as there are for women. No special programs for abused men as they are for women, this is why its hilarious to me that a man is told to "man up" when he gets brutalized by physical force by a woman. When the roles are reversed there is this huge feminist march, outrage from both the public and feminist controlled media with droves of mangina/whiteknights who tag along to sing fucking Kum ba yah around the camp fire.

I want true equality under the law, that is why I've joined the MRM. I want women to be eligible for the draft should it ever be needed. Women in combat is just a step closer in my mind.

[Kuya]

Lol men and women equality cannot and should not ever be mentioned in the same sentence. I'm sure some feminist or whiteknight/mangina is going to call me misogynistic but we're not equals by any means under the law. Laws heavily favor women in every nook and turn possible and I would even goes as far as to say equality under the law is a joke, especially for men. While I will agree separate showers should be included to cut down possible shenanigans but that is where the separated should stop.

If women want to sign up for combat duty and blow shit up, let them, as long as they pass whatever requirements to be able to pull their own weight in combat. I just have to laugh at all the random women the media has interviewed since this news has come down the pipeline and almost everyone of them is against women in combat.

So let me get this straight for those women who are opposed to women in combat, now correct me if I'm wrong. It is perfectly ok for men to be disposable cannon fodder that excludes the "now equal woman" because women are equals until "shit hits the fan" and this is why men get sent into burning buildings to die when terrorist attacks happen or men go get blown up in war but the "now equal women can't". Through Afghanistan and Iraqi conflicts, 97% of deaths were men, 3% were women.

Men and Women aren't even close to being equal under the eyes of the law, look no further than the corrupt family court systems that heavily favor women when no-fault divorce came about. Talk about abortion rights, men have no rights at all once a woman becomes pregnant, a man should be able to legally walk away if he doesn't want to be a father just like a woman can legally abort the child should she not want to be a mother.

This whole farce about women not being able to perform in combat is just idiotic when I hear arguments against women in combat. Women have proven just as capable and lethal as men when it comes to violent behavior, men and women are about equal in domestic violence cases except there is no abuse shelters for men as there are for women. No special programs for abused men as they are for women, this is why its hilarious to me that a man is told to "man up" when he gets brutalized by physical force by a woman. When the roles are reversed there is this huge feminist march, outrage from both the public and feminist controlled media with droves of mangina/whiteknights who tag along to sing fucking Kum ba yah around the camp fire.

I want true equality under the law, that is why I've joined the MRM. I want women to be eligible for the draft should it ever be needed. Women in combat is just a step closer in my mind.

[Churchill]

he's not exactly wrong, don't try to perm

[Kuya]

Sounds to me like someone who's butthurt over getting denied pussy for being a scrub, so you're gonna have to point out what he's not completely wrong about (i presume you mean the family court thing).

[Ksandra]

I honestly can't tell if he's agreeing or disagreeing with aks. sounded like he was saying women and men aren't equal but they are equal when it comes to violence therefore will be able to pass the same tests as the men to go on the front lines which will make them equal.


Or something.

[Churchill]

Well, people are conditioned to assume he's a misogynist when he says some of the things he does, so it doesn't put anyone's opinion of what he's saying in an objective frame.

This is the part that doesn't really make a lot of sense with everything else that was said.

This whole farce about women not being able to perform in combat is just idiotic when I hear arguments against women in combat. Women have proven just as capable and lethal as men when it comes to violent behavior, men and women are about equal in domestic violence cases except there is no abuse shelters for men as there are for women. No special programs for abused men as they are for women, this is why its hilarious to me that a man is told to "man up" when he gets brutalized by physical force by a woman. When the roles are reversed there is this huge feminist march, outrage from both the public and feminist controlled media with droves of mangina/whiteknights who tag along to sing fucking Kum ba yah around the camp fire.

Being violent and causing domestic violence is a different beast than killing people in a warzone. I won't pretend it's incredibly difficult, but since I know that it isn't for 'most' people, and I know how 'most' people act overseas when the littlest thing occurs, I can safely say that we are not talking apples and apples.

As far as abuse and or shelters, while I don't disagree that it is unfair, I'm also not going to make that my soapbox because you really should just man up and not be a bitch. My attitude for those men is fairly congruent with my attitude for those women. There is no relationship in the world you don't place yourself in willingly and cannot also take yourself away from.

The men who go to feminist rallies really are the worst type of people, though a lot of MRM folks are just as bad.

[Skjie]

I would like to see the argument about why gays should be allowed in the military but women not.

[Ksandra]

I would like to see the argument about why gays should be allowed in the military but women not.

So you're saying you didn't read the thread at all?

[Skjie]

I saw lots of complaining about sex and women being weak and skipped ahead.

[Ksandra]

I saw lots of complaining about sex and women being weak and skipped ahead.

so you're saying gays are weak as women?

I mean the only thing gays and women would share is the "higher" rate I guess of sex, but even then, there's no pregnancy drop outs and no bloody tampons. I am not sure why you thought those two could be compared.

[Skjie]

Third, sex and relations. Per the UCMJ, we were forbidden to engage in sexual activities while deployed downrange. That may be easier to manage when you're in a unit of only men, but please try to tell me that after six months of no sex that having a woman nearby is going to be a good thing? She either voluntarily becomes a whore, (which means she might get pregnant, that's also not a good thing, morning sickness and nausea in combat, no thank you), or someone fucking rapes her. You might say well that's only a matter of self-control, but while you have plenty of people with some semblance of sense in the military, you also have quite a few with absolutely none. I saw this shit happening constantly while I was deployed, and I was in a unit that didn't even enter Iraq.

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Fifth, different quarters for women - you have to find different places for them to sleep, change, shit, wash, etc. Very difficult to have to make accommodations for women in a field environment. You have to set up "privacy curtains" and other retarded shit, no matter what aspect of the military you're in, there have to be different quarters for the females.

That's why?

[Ksandra]

you think...you think gays need separate quarters? rather than give vague answers explain exactly what it is you are suggesting because you are making zero sense atm.

[Skjie]

No, I think the argument that women shouldn't serve because sex is just as stupid as gays shouldn't serve because sex. And yet...

[Ksandra]

That was only one point in a ton of points made about woman in the military. The biggest point seems to be about their physical differences which has nothing to do with gay or straight. As well as pregnancies and tampons which have nothing to do with gays.

So just because one point is similar doesn't negate all the other points made.

[Churchill]

I think the archetype of the evil man abusing his wife is rather flawed.

Regardless, moving from divorce in a time when it was shunned period to a time where it's so easily abused it makes ponzi schemes look benevolent is not the right answer or a defensible position.

[Churchill]

Outside of men who are truly the lowest of the low, I find it hard to believe that a sex that capitulated to women at every point possible throughout history (a fact that is psychologically driven in all men) at the same time went out of their way to stick it to a divorced wife.

If we're talking about absentee dads who decide to bail and take no part in child raising, financially or whatever, that would be a different story as I'm sure that's much more common than men who simply did it via the courts.

[Abandon]

There's already a program in place within the Army that mandates a soldier possess a family care plan in the event one or both parents are unable to care for their children. If unable to create one the soldier is chaptered out of the military.

^

i processed a kid out about 3 weeks ago for this.