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[Obsidian]

20 extra seconds of Chainspell is never a bad thing.

[Ripebear]

Right now, before the 1h/MNK update, I'm having an arguement about MNK VS SAM, and wanted some second input.

My and my brother have roughly equal gear in terms of our SAM (me) versus his MNK, both delve weapons, middle tier gear.

In Ceizak fracture in same party, same buffs we parse and I win pretty consistently, by 10-20k+, he reckons because we get more ACC in Morimar, that the tables would turn and he would be beating me consistently due to MNK getting MORE out of the added acc (His reason was due to MNK melee damage getting more, I argued my WS damage would be upgraded in the same proportion)

I'm no good at math, so who is right? I would have thought we both got the same amount of bonus, we gona parse Morimar soon but just wondered.

[Carraway]

I have RDM, COR, SMN, WHM, SCH. Is there any worthwhile relic AF2 equip for those jobs that is worth grinding out the +2 augments for? Seeing as how it's double exp weekend coming up I wanted to look into it.

WHM AF2+2 feet, legs for Protectra V/Shellra V enhancements respectively. All of the RDM stuff is duration I think. SMN head increases Astral Flow duration, don't know about the other pieces. COR head increases roll duration, feet increases the odds of Wild Card resetting SPs, don't know how useful the other pieces are. SCH legs for Tabula Rasa duration, feet for +surge potency.

[Rehn]

What does that even mean? Getting more out of the acc? In ceizak, due to the 30s super evasion enemies get every 3 minute, the one who wins the parse will be the one who doesn't recklessly WS whenever the buff is up. If you want to parse against each other, do it in morimar. And even then, 10-20k difference damage is piddly if you are doing a dedicated area within fracture. That's barely 1 mob.

[Ripebear]

What does that even mean? Getting more out of the acc? In ceizak, due to the 30s super evasion enemies get every 3 minute, the one who wins the parse will be the one who doesn't recklessly WS whenever the buff is up. If you want to parse against each other, do it in morimar. And even then, 10-20k difference damage is piddly if you are doing a dedicated area within fracture. That's barely 1 mob.

In simple terms, he's saying MNK get more out of ACC than SAM.

Since our ACC is nerfed by about 10% or so due to that nasty debuff, in Morimar with higher ACC MNK will be benefiting more from it..

I don't really know how to explain it more simple than that, he's saying because MNK rely heavily on melee damage, the acc will be doing more for them, rather than a SAM who relies heavily on WS damage. And we both play to compete against eachother, but still want to hit max plasm, so we don't hold tp ever. I probably benefit more in Ceizak due to Y/G/K having a nice bonus, usually land them doing 1.8-3k. So from what I can tell in Morimar it would be very close between a similar geared SAM and MNK right now. 10-20k is usually a 3-5% win, so it's actually a lot of damage when we are both constantly engaged and DPS'ing the entire time. A lot of that could maybe be contributed to Y/G/K on evasive times though.

Basically we both miss Usukane +1 and Tenryu +1, other than that have pretty much the rest of the stuff

[mdkuser]

Anyone can tell me how often the ToAU kings pop? I've just started camping them, but I'm getting conflicting info on how/when they spawn. Do they have a chance to spawn inside their lair during Lv5+ besieged preparation, or is it 21-24 hours? Or is it some weird mixture of both.

EDIT: Also, do I need widescan? I read that you can't see any of the kings via fillmode cause they spawn too far inside... is that true?

a few months earlier people have camped jaja for 1 full month with no pop on my server, but apparently it was bugged. For the 2 other they spawned within 1 week of last kill. They pop randomly, doesn't have to be lv5. They pop right after a maintenance too, thats how I got my JaJa.

Yes they are widescannable. no you cant see with fillmode. For gurfurlur you can widescan it with a lvl 1 rng subjob if you post yourself at the magma pond near the final door (can go there solo).

[sluggo]

pup/thf, do I need to act on the mob to proc th or will letting the auto solo it work?

[Fake]

Right now, before the 1h/MNK update, I'm having an arguement about MNK VS SAM, and wanted some second input.

My and my brother have roughly equal gear in terms of our SAM (me) versus his MNK, both delve weapons, middle tier gear. 10-20k over the course of an efficient run is not much and the range of your lead changes by 50% so it just further emphasizes that your parses mean squat in terms of making a real comparison between your sam and his mnk.

In Ceizak fracture in same party, same buffs we parse and I win pretty consistently, by 10-20k+, he reckons because we get more ACC in Morimar, that the tables would turn and he would be beating me consistently due to MNK getting MORE out of the added acc (His reason was due to MNK melee damage getting more, I argued my WS damage would be upgraded in the same proportion)

I'm no good at math, so who is right? I would have thought we both got the same amount of bonus, we gona parse Morimar soon but just wondered.

For a start you're comparing 2 different players, pointless, even if you are both trying its a 45min event and minds will wander.

For the second part, if you are refering to the zone messages flooring accuracy for 30 seconds then no, both of you will suffer pretty much equally. Only thing you could argue is that it will lower your overall DPS but meditate should remain constant (not quite if you aren't riding timer because it comes up during a message).

If you want a comparison on what each job is actually capable of then it will depend on buffs. If you're capping attack and accuracy mnk is going to be winning, but not by much. Sam will regain the lead fairly fast after you move away from attack and accuracy caps. Assuming both have the 30k delve weapons and relevant delve/nni/emp/salvagev2 gear.

[Ripebear]

For a start you're comparing 2 different players, pointless, even if you are both trying its a 45min event and minds will wander.

For the second part, if you are refering to the zone messages flooring accuracy for 30 seconds then no, both of you will suffer pretty much equally. Only thing you could argue is that it will lower your overall DPS but meditate should remain constant (not quite if you aren't riding timer because it comes up during a message).

If you want a comparison on what each job is actually capable of then it will depend on buffs. If you're capping attack and accuracy mnk is going to be winning, but not by much. Sam will regain the lead fairly fast after you move away from attack and accuracy caps. Assuming both have the 30k delve weapons and relevant delve/nni/emp/salvagev2 gear.

This was the kind of answer I was looking for.We tend to use our buffs same time, and trust me on one thing, neither of us wander, were brothers, everything is a competition haha!

He says with sushi he is hitting close to 95 so he was kind of right,but I'm guessing attack isn't easy to cap on delve mobs, especially with sushi? We have been parsing against eachother for many years and its just for fun, was only a curiosity

From what I've seen, MNK are going to be tearing shit up with new update and transferrable Victory Smi

Also, what do you mean by the range of the lead changes by 50%?

[Fake]

I mean you stated 10-20k. 20k ahead is the most you ever get ahead, 10k is the least, 50% of 20 is 10. Wasn't the best way of phrasing it.

10k damage is still fuck all over the course of a delve, also depending on how your group operates your competition is probably detrimental. I bet neither of you want to pull a nearby mob to help with pulling (obviously you have multiple pullers but it still happens frequently) if there is a single mob left at camp with even 20% hp left on it.

[Ripebear]

I mean you stated 10-20k. 20k ahead is the most you ever get ahead, 10k is the least, 50% of 20 is 10. Wasn't the best way of phrasing it.

10k damage is still fuck all over the course of a delve, also depending on how your group operates your competition is probably detrimental. I bet neither of you want to pull a nearby mob to help with pulling (obviously you have multiple pullers but it still happens frequently) if there is a single mob left at camp with even 20% hp left on it.

Yeah I understood what you meant after I posted. Our competition is never close enough for that to matter, we won't generally go off to pull if we have mobs in camps just leave to someone designated. I don't think there's a way to ever parse reliably, this is about as close as we are going to get I think!

Also I've won by considerably more. I think 20k was about the least. He claimed in morimar exact same situations and gear tables would be turned, due to accuracy increase, this is all I was getting at.

Since we are both good players I reckon it will definitely be closer, as I won't be switching to a full accuracy setup for to and doing gekko in gorget/belt when message comes, that will be giving me an edge, he just goes with accuracy set fur tp, no other mnk ws has accuracy bonus like YGK, does it?

[NynJa]

1 well geared mnk, 1 okay mnk + 1 good whm can kill matamata with 2hr, ya?

[Darkmagi]

Yes, the one inside fracture has a bit more HP though I think.

[Darkmagi]

Are Huginn feet still best in slot for drakesbane?

[Dotsudoku]

Should be, but Karieyh Sollerets have severely devalued them. The gap between ye old optimal feet and Huginn was monstrous-- not so much anymore

[dasva]

Whirlpool Greaves pretty nice for it too... then again the huge increase in base dmg weapons has also comparatively devalued things like stat mods and str that add to base dmg putting Huginn back up again. And also making certain ws good again lol

[RicFlair]

if you miss the first roll of the cor then get hit with the 2nd one, will you still get the total amount of the number rolled?

[FNH]

if you miss the first roll of the cor then get hit with the 2nd one, will you still get the total amount of the number rolled?

you will get the double up yes. If thats what you are asking.

[sluggo]

Wife is trying to get SoA content on xbox. She bought the code/dl from amazone (pc version). Though she's running win8 and pol just doesnt work. She did a fewsh xbox install with a wotg ult. ed. disc, went through 8 hours of updates, then when she logs in it warns her that she has the ability to access that content, but cannot because she has no expansion day. The only solution I can see plainly is to buy the SoA download through xbox, but thats an extra waste of $30. Is there anyway to get the content downloaded to xbox?

TIA

[Modoru]

Wife is trying to get SoA content on xbox. She bought the code/dl from amazone (pc version). Though she's running win8 and pol just doesnt work. She did a fewsh xbox install with a wotg ult. ed. disc, went through 8 hours of updates, then when she logs in it warns her that she has the ability to access that content, but cannot because she has no expansion day. The only solution I can see plainly is to buy the SoA download through xbox, but thats an extra waste of $30. Is there anyway to get the content downloaded to xbox?

TIA

Hey mate, the issue here is that Adoulin's main data isn't downloaded via patch, it's an actual install via disk. Your main options are to snag a friend's copy, or buy it -- there's not really much other choice, I think.