Random Question Thread

[Kamil]

Is there a fast/easy way to get Adoulin fame up?

[Sechs]

Atm no.
There are repeatable quests but with a week (conquest) cooldown.
Just do all the quests and you'll get fame 5 quick.

[Rehn]

I'm goin nuts atm trying to find these things. For Peacekeepers' patrol assignment, where can I find maroliths in cirdas? I found 2 around K-5, but just can't find another batch close by.

EDIT: Well found another batch and edited wiki accordingly.

[Taint]

DRG Spirit Surge Jump is it -20% DEF or -30% DEF??

Looking on Wiki Jump page says 30 and Spirit surge page says 20.

[Rehn]

A brd sings 4 minuet in 5/5 +2 gear. That's +20 STR alone from set bonus correct?

[Kincard]

How many merit weapon skills are obsolete/not important now with the huge weapon D increase? I was trying Shijin Spiral and it the numbers were unimpressive compared to Asuran.

[dasva]

Some are more like sidegrades if that's what you mean. I think the ranged ones are completely outclassed now by slugwinder if you can afford the acc. Heck coronach's not far behind. I'm sure if they do ever unlock empyrean ws alot of them will replace the merit ones.

[Darkmagi]

Shijin is still a significant increase over asuran, besides preunlock salvage.

[Sechs]

How many merit weapon skills are obsolete/not important now with the huge weapon D increase? I was trying Shijin Spiral and it the numbers were unimpressive compared to Asuran.

Shijin is still a significant increase over asuran, besides preunlock salvage.

Is it?
Shijin at 5/5 should be better than Asuran, even with Oaxitur, according to some tests I did with Motenten's spreadsheet some time ago.
I think Asuran is better than 1/5 Shijin though, and probably even higher merits.
Either way, I recall the difference not being that big, altough I guess that's highly subjective.

Shijin still has utility with its added Plague effect and can supposedly spike higher than Asuran thanks to DA/TA/QA procs, whereas Asuran is gonna be more consistant, without noticeable spikes etc.

[Fake]

You do talk some crap. Takes 2mins on spreadsheet to see 1/5 shijin is better rather than make a long winded post that says nothing.

Shijin is worth putting 1/5 into even if you rarely play mnk

[Sechs]

Please do share your spreadsheet settings with me, I'm curious to see the differences in our setups.

[Warusha]

Has there been any testing on whether Gjallarhorn only increases duration, or increases potency as well on Adventurer's Dirge?

[Byrthnoth]

No testing, and if you try to test it then you should be aware that many of the enmity values on bgwiki are wrong now.

[Francisco]

Regarding Dark Rings:

I have one with -6% MDT, and another with -5% PDT, and a third with -4% MDT and -4% PDT.

Obviously, the first two are better for their respective needs.

Is there any known way to control which one is equipped through spellcast or other means?

There seems to be different priorities when sorting and when equipping.

Sorting my inventory puts the Dark Rings in this order, every time:

1: -4% MDT, -4% PDT
2: -6% MDT
3: -5% PDT

But equipping them via spellcast produces the following:

- Switch one Dark Ring in, -6% MDT ring equipped every time.
- Switch two Dark Rings in, -6% MDT goes to Ring 1, and -4M/-4P goes to Ring 2... this happens every time.

Even if I rearrange my Dark Rings into a random order in my inventory, sorting always puts them back in the "correct" order, so the game is using some sort of logic to determine an order for them.

It doesn't seem to be based on how long the item has been in my inventory either, as the current order represents old/new/old.

Is it possible these items have some sort of (numeric?) ID based on augments, and could it be possible to utilize this in spellcast files?

[Fake]

Please do share your spreadsheet settings with me, I'm curious to see the differences in our setups.

Using conditions that favor Asuran. I purposefully used buffs that leave pdif uncapped because it give asuran greater benefit, only thing that favors shijin is fighter's (but when are you going to be without it on anything delve related)

Delve Fodder with 10% defense down, boost str, 2x march+5, MinuetV+5, Fighter's Roll, Haste, Red Curry

Shijin

Oatixur/ / /Potestas
Uk'uxkaj/Justiciar/Steelflash/Bladeborn
Mani15/Mustela/Rajas/Epona
Atheling/Caudata/Mani15/Mani15

3868 (ratio 1.939)

Asuran

Oatixur/ / /Potestas
Uk'uxkaj/Justiciar/Tati+1/Tati+1
Mani15/Melee+2/Rajas/Kyares
Vespid/Prosilio/Mani15/Mani15

3737 (ratio 1.991)

Thats assuming you have Oatixur and are playing with gimpshit buffs that in no way reflect a realistic scenario (no berserk/impetus/chaos roll/extra minuets). If you're actually gearing for Delve Fodder then you will likely have Rigor since nobody killing bosses gives a shit about 10k plasm runs. Rigor hands a huge advantage to shijin and the asuran set also includes gear like tati+1 which is an unjustifiable waste of gil.

If you create a realistic scenario the difference jumps up to over 300 damage advantage to shijin at 1/5.

[Kincard]

purposefully used buffs that leave pdif uncapped because it give asuran greater benefit

Really? I thought Shijin would benefit more from uncapped pdif given that it's the one with an attack boost and all.

My own observations were obviously anecdotal, was just playing around on Dynamis stuff and my Asuran beat Shijin pretty consistently, so I'm guessing Shijin gets better the stronger the monster is.

I probably just need to get a better Shijin set.

[Taint]

Regarding Dark Rings:

I have one with -6% MDT, and another with -5% PDT, and a third with -4% MDT and -4% PDT.

Obviously, the first two are better for their respective needs.

Is there any known way to control which one is equipped through spellcast or other means?

There seems to be different priorities when sorting and when equipping.

Sorting my inventory puts the Dark Rings in this order, every time:

1: -4% MDT, -4% PDT
2: -6% MDT
3: -5% PDT

But equipping them via spellcast produces the following:

- Switch one Dark Ring in, -6% MDT ring equipped every time.
- Switch two Dark Rings in, -6% MDT goes to Ring 1, and -4M/-4P goes to Ring 2... this happens every time.

Even if I rearrange my Dark Rings into a random order in my inventory, sorting always puts them back in the "correct" order, so the game is using some sort of logic to determine an order for them.

It doesn't seem to be based on how long the item has been in my inventory either, as the current order represents old/new/old.

Is it possible these items have some sort of (numeric?) ID based on augments, and could it be possible to utilize this in spellcast files?

Nope. Just get 2 rings with decent PDT/MDT buffs. Or get a Dring.

[Fake]

Really? I thought Shijin would benefit more from uncapped pdif given that it's the one with an attack boost and all.

My own observations were obviously anecdotal, was just playing around on Dynamis stuff and my Asuran beat Shijin pretty consistently, so I'm guessing Shijin gets better the stronger the monster is.

I probably just need to get a better Shijin set.

Wat

Also shijin's attack boost is of little consequence (multi hit weaponskill) and you gear the 2 weaponskills differently if that wasn't obvious. Attack uncapped favors Asuran

Asuran is not better unless you're doing it wrong and in 8 days it will lose even more ground to Shijin since uncapped attack won't happen nearly as much.

[Kyte]

I think it was proven that it doesn't even have an attack boost. Also, when comparing the two, you need to be looking at total DPS, not just WS damage. The main reason why Asuran isn't (and soon to be "wasn't") that far behind is because of the additional TP return. If you're currently considering putting 1 merit in it versus just using Asuran, put your individual gear into the spreadsheet and see how it turns out. Pre-update, if it wasn't top quality gear (Whirlpool, etc) and you weren't getting Fighter's, using Asuran over Shijin had a tendency to be just as good if not better.

[Fake]

Even better, but it would make such a small difference on a 5~ hit WS anyway.