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    Quote Originally Posted by shidobu View Post
    ^ don't get it are you making fun of them or the xbox..

    sarcasm is hard to detect on the internets
    I was going for M$ not giving clarification, and being smug about it. Failure on my part. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    so your telling me if I sell a blu ray dvd of mine of E-bay I can be sued by whoever owns it?

    edit: This is not true right lol? iv sold blu ray DVD's for years as well as a bunch of CD's. Never once have I ever seen anyone say you can not sell it. I can not sell a COPY of it, but I can sell the DVD is I want to lol.
    No because that isn't one of the restrictions on your media. The media isn't "yours to do as you please"--there's stuff you cannot legally do, was all I was saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Watched the stream, staying for the gifs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn View Post
    No because that isn't one of the restrictions on your media. The media isn't "yours to do as you please"--there's stuff you cannot legally do, was all I was saying.
    Actually, the first-sale doctrine says you can do whatever you want with it once you purchase it, including selling it. This is an attempt to circumvent that by basically turning everything into licensed software through DRM. It's bullshit, and they know that, which is why they are doing this code for every game because they know they don't have a legal course to prevent the secondary-market.

    Honestly, it really is a circumvention of the rights of a consumer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn View Post
    No... it isn't, and that's the BIG problem with the entertainment industry as we know it buddy. Just because you bought a Blu-ray movie or a video game doesn't mean it's "yours". lol
    I dont get it then. Up till this point gamestop has lived off used games for the most part, you can not mean that it has been illegal but allowed to go on. MS is aiming to change the rules now, I am willing to bet we will see some type of law suite from used game shops.

    edit: your just about saying "because MS said so" right?

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    Yeah I agree it's bullshit. Quite frankly if they wanted to do-away with the secondary market they would start distributing games via digital download only or with very few physical copies floating around. Then they could create a new secondary market completely under their control by allowing trades across accounts. It seems like they're moving towards the latter in the short-run and towards the former in the long-run. Gamestop will be outta business in 5 years anyway with these trends (and they know it which is why they buy and sell apple products, cell phone plans, and beatz now).

    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    I dont get it then. Up till this point gamestop has lived off used games for the most part, you can not mean that it has been illegal but allowed to go on. MS is aiming to change the rules now, I am willing to bet we will see some type of law suite from used game shops.

    edit: your just about saying "because MS said so" right?
    My whole point was two-fold: 1) they game cannot be "yours" entirely because you cannot copy it and 2) they are lying to you by telling you it's yours because of #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I was going for M$ not giving clarification, and being smug about it. Failure on my part. LOL
    okay

    and yes that .gif is amazing.. im waiting for the hitler video tho should be within the next 24 hours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shidobu View Post
    okay

    and yes that .gif is amazing.. im waiting for the hitler video tho should be within the next 24 hours...

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    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown3 View Post
    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.
    Well good news, you should be able to get your console without too much hassle then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown3 View Post
    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.
    The ironic display of calling out fanbois in this post is delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown3 View Post
    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.
    I can do all those things on my TV, I don't need a console to do it. I want to play video games, that's why I buy a video game console. I own a 360, I have never owned a PS3. I wanted the next xbox until I saw all the rumors of always-online, kinect required, no used games, focus on multi-media living room device and less focus on games. This reveal confirmed every single rumor, and made me not want to have ANYTHING to do with the xbox one, ever.

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    Can this console last 6-7 years on its specs? I really feel like it's going the OUYA route.

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    I don't see the big deal about the second hand market going away. Even the point regarding the cost doesn't work. I mean I can't exactly sell my copy of Windows Vista that I no longer use can I? (Ignoring the fact no one in their right mind would buy it these days). Games are software and it's quite normal for software to require a license. But I can see why used game buyers would hate it. No one wants to spend more money than they are used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown3 View Post
    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.
    Almost always end up with both after a time. Also I tend to buy all my games used outside a few that have online play that matters. willing to bet if you took a pool a lot of people in here that are pissed are 360 owners(like myself)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown3 View Post
    all i'm picking up in this thread is a bunch of "hardcore gamers" that have no use for TV, sports, movies, streaming or any other alternate forms of entertainment and that none of you were going to buy the thing anyway.

    i'm satisfied with what i saw in the 1 hour period and will wait for more at E3. I'm guessing most of you were on the PS side of the 360 vs PS3 console wars and are still salty with how much your console got shit on in the last 30 months.
    For the last 30 months? What are you talking about? The PS3 and Xbox 360 are neck and neck at the moment and they have been for awhile. I don't have a Xbox 360, But I have access to one in my living room (roommate's) and my PS3 isn't working actually, I BARELY even played with the PS3. Sony is trying to screw me into buying a PS3 from them because their firmware update screwed up my current one.

    Sony is blatantly ripping me off, but Microsoft is raping their entire customer base with their next console with no lubricant.

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    I have yet to see anyone defend the XO without trying to shit all over the PS4 or Sony in general. Hows this for a challenge: Defend the XO and explain why you think its a good console without using the words Sony or Playstation in your arguement.

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