Xbox Done Discussion - 2016's #1 Master Race Bottom Bitch

[quannum]

It's just a question of how much negative press will reach the masses and if it will affect their sales.

zero to none is my guess, blops gonna blops

we're (people who complain on vidya forums) just a whiny minority on these matters.

[Gryffes]

We might be a whiny minority but we tend to influence groups of people, and especially on fb/twitter this gen it will transmit to the masses more easily.

I also think in a year or so when optimisation gets more advanced for both consoles you're going to see "8/10 good game, runs at 1080p@60fps on the ps3 and looks better, xbox runs 900p@60fps and looks worse" and people will just buy more ps4s.

[The Blackrose]

Oh, this shit just got even better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...497_story.html

Guess who's on the list.

That Kinect just became a problem

[Kohan]

Anyone else have a problem with using AA batteries for the controller? This is one of the reasons I never use the wii.

Problem solved.

Personally, I much prefer removable batteries. While I may be capable of removing a battery that isn't meant to be removed by the end user, not everyone is, nor do they necessarily want to do that, and too many companies take advantage of this (such as Apple). It's a shitty way to treat your customers, in my opinion—as such, I always prefer removable batteries/battery packs.

[Tyrath]

Personally, I much prefer removable batteries. While I may be capable of removing a battery that isn't meant to be removed by the end user, not everyone is, nor do they necessarily want to do that, and too many companies take advantage of this (such as Apple). It's a shitty way to treat your customers, in my opinion—as such, I always prefer removable batteries/battery packs.

I only half agree. What Apple does is bullshit because there is no way to open the devices up. But a closed device that charges itself is fine with me as long as I can open it up if I ever want to tinker.

[Jaxzer]

Oh, this shit just got even better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...497_story.html

Guess who's on the list.

That Kinect just became a problem

My God if this doesn't prove to be the nail in the coffin...

[Kohan]

I only half agree. What Apple does is bullshit because there is no way to open the devices up. But a closed device that charges itself is fine with me as long as I can open it up if I ever want to tinker.

That's fine with me, too, but naturally, you and I don't represent everyone. I wouldn't be worried about popping open a controller housing and disconnecting an old battery to put in a new one, but the usual consumer won't feel comfortable doing that.

[Correction]

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/connected

loooooooool

Hahahah what the fuck.

Everything is up to publishers granting us permission to trade in or sell our shit on ebay.

[Mizango]

We were all thinking the same thing with how hardcore he's been defending up in this thread.

Saw that a mile away.

[archibaldcrane]

So are we sticking with Juan? I kinda like Xbox Done.

[Mizango]

lol

[mightyg]

What a load of fuck on all accounts. Not a damn thing in there that made me think they were being reasonable. PS4 it is.

[Shiyo]

Nothing new here, just confirming what we already knew. I hope sony doesn't royally fuck us as much as microsoft, but so far there hasn't been much bad news about them. Worst case scenario nintendo is our only gaming console that isn't anti-consumer bullshit.

[ringthree]

I am really wondering how this interacts with the right of first sale. Are you going to have to agree to a ToS for every game you purchase? This whole thing reeks.

[Kaisha]

Oh, this shit just got even better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...497_story.html

Guess who's on the list.

That Kinect just became a problem

I just assumed that was related to MSN/Skype more than Xbox-specific functionality.

I am really wondering how this interacts with the right of first sale. Are you going to have to agree to a ToS for every game you purchase? This whole thing reeks.

It kinda brings to light that one topic about resale of digital games on Steam, since one country (was it Germany?) had issue with the fact you're paying to just license something.

[Correction]

Nothing new here, just confirming what we already knew. I hope sony doesn't royally fuck us as much as microsoft, but so far there hasn't been much bad news about them. Worst case scenario nintendo is our only gaming console that isn't anti-consumer bullshit.

What really, really needs to be understood is that 100% of the pressure for this 'feature' to exist is coming from EA, Take Two, Activision and Ubisoft. If you continue to think it's MS fucking the consumer, you're really swinging at the wrong pitches.

[6souls]

I just assumed that was related to MSN/Skype more than Xbox-specific functionality.

Don't forget that skype is integrated into the XB1 so you can have video chats while watching TV or playing games. If the gov is intercepting app data, I'm sure they'll be getting their hands on this data, too.

[Deader2818]

What really, really needs to be understood is that 100% of the pressure for this 'feature' to exist is coming from EA, Take Two, Activision and Ubisoft. If you continue to think it's MS fucking the consumer, you're really swinging at the wrong pitches.

MS could just tell them no along with Sony. What are the going to do? Go to PC only?

[Kaisha]

MS could just tell them no along with Sony. What are the going to do? Go to PC only?

Digital-only and sell a retail box with just a redeem code inside like I've seen done for Fallout/Borderland DLC. Same difference, same results as far as they're concerned.

I'm expecting Sony with their lack of servers for such a grandiose thing, to just make it on a per-game basis. if a publisher 'requires' it. They already have the tech for uniquely identifiable blu-ray discs as seen with PS3 CrossBuy titles, which publishers would probably opt-in for as your 'serial key to play'.

Don't forget that skype is integrated into the XB1 so you can have video chats while watching TV or playing games. If the gov is intercepting app data, I'm sure they'll be getting their hands on this data, too.

What about normal private messages though? Is that all done through a layer of Skype also?

[Correction]

MS could just tell them no along with Sony. What are the going to do? Go to PC only?

As the platform holders they could indeed say no. I suspect they just got greedy as a software publisher themselves and likely miscalculated the consumer backlash. The good news for them is that 50-75% of their likely audience will jizz themselves over the E3 exclusive announcements and forget this all happened.

Until the next bad thing happens.

p.s. it's not a foregone conclusion that Sony won't make the same moves. I expect them to stay pretty mum on the subject until they learn everything they can from the MS PR debacle.