Windower 4 - Discussion and Support

[Darkmagi]

Isn't really a problem to me anymore, but some sort of setting in 3.4 let me run with much less lag and a less horrible look. Undersampling really kills the game look wise, and I didn't get the same sort of lag reduction I had while running 3.4. I only ever do this on my awful laptop when traveling though, just not tech savvy enough to know what was the difference.

[Mkilbride]

Super Sampling is sampling at a higher rate than the pixels on your screen (determined by your window size) can represent. Choosing super sampling values over 2 (calculating twice as many points as you need) increases the load on your computer without an increase in the observed graphics quality. Choosing values that aren't factor-of-two multiples of your window size (in pixels) causes either aliasing or makes your computer do weird math to interpolate. Thus there are two logical values, 1x and 2x. Hence super sampling has values Off (1x) and On (2x).

If you want to play "Atari Style" FFXI or make your computer work harder than it should have to for no reward, you can go to ../Windower4/settings.xml and change the <supersampling>value</supersampling> to whatever you want.

I guess, I know what super sampling is, I just didn't know how Windower worked it out, turns it is just changing the internal resolution via the registry.

I am curious about the DrawDistance plugin - previously all you had to do was set it via a file in the Windower folder, but it's no longer around...

[Arcon]

It's exactly the same. Nothing at all changed with how it works, or how Windower itself works. Create a file Windower/scripts/init.txt (it should already exist if you used the installer instead of just the launcher), and add your DrawDistance settings there.

[Mkilbride]

Alright, just abit confusing. Ah well. Also, I remember Ambient lighting sucking hard, have they improved that at all?

[Darkmagi]

Disregard, I suck. fixed

[Tanag]

How do I unhide plugins such as bidder? I tried editing the manifest but windower rewrites the values to hidden when it launches.

Edit: It's the Konami code

[|Heretic|]

Don't know enough about Lua yet

Any possibility of an addon that mimics the functionality of the GearCollector plugin, but can read a GearSwap file instead of a Spellcast xml?

[Arcon]

Any possibility of an addon that mimics the functionality of the GearCollector plugin, but can read a GearSwap file instead of a Spellcast xml?

That's currently being discussed, unfortunately it's not quite as straightforward as GC itself, hence we're still debating the best way to approach this. It's definitely in everyone's interest though and will be done.

[Teratron]

Is there anyway I can get rid of the fancy spell/JA icons and just use the standard FFXI icons? I find the icons that Windower is using now to just be too busy, obscuring what the icon is actually for. In particular, a lot of the graphical designs tend to make it hard to tell at a glance the elemental-based color of the icon, especially within the spell menu. I'd generally rather just easily see the type of magic and element on the icon, which is exactly what the standard icons provide.

I see the icons in the plugins folder, so I was guessing that they're part of Timers? But when I unloaded Timers and changed characters, the icons didn't change. I even tried renaming the icons folder before launching Windower, but I still have the busy icons. I'm not really sure what else to try.

[Julian]

SE added those icons to the game a while back, they're not from windower.

I don't know if there are any DAT mods out there to restore the icons, but that's where I would check first.

[bungiefan]

You can access the in-game Config menu, I believe Config2. It has a setting for menu icons, and was defaulted to the new one. The other option is the old icons.

[Esvedium]

You can access the in-game Config menu, I believe Config2. It has a setting for menu icons, and was defaulted to the new one. The other option is the old icons.

Does that change spell icons, too? I know it changes the buff/debuff icons, hadn't noticed the spell icons.

[bungiefan]

Yes, in the menus it changes the icons back to original.

[Teratron]

Ah, so that's it! So I take it the icons in the Windower plugins folder are (enhanced?) copies of SE's new icons for usage by Timers? Since I found the icons there, and since my wife's account on the other computer that is only using DrawDistance has the old icons, I assumed it had to be one of the plugins I was using. But sure enough, she had Icon Type 1, and I have Icon Type 2.

Thanks for the help!

[Subadai]

Last night, Scoreboard was running fine, but today I get "error 296: attempt to index upvalue 'display' (a nil value)" on startup. (Windower 4.1).

[Trumpy]

So i finally got to mess with my THF code. it still wasn't working quite right. But since i had various checks for sneak attack and trick attack being up when i engage and to use those things instead of TH or DD gears, i decided to put party chat for when those situations were true in an effort to see when things were actually happening (So if Sneak attack was up when i engaged it would say at aftercast of engaging "SA SET" for example). And suddenly the gear was switching properly how i wanted to from TH to DD gears after 15 seconds of engaging. So then i removed the extra code for the party chats, and its still working appropriately so i dunno if what i did fixed it without me knowing or what. Maybe it was just being glitchy still the 5 mins prior when it wasnt working. So now unless im engaged for less than 15 seconds everythign works perfectly.

[Nitrous24]

That's currently being discussed, unfortunately it's not quite as straightforward as GC itself, hence we're still debating the best way to approach this. It's definitely in everyone's interest though and will be done.

i've tried a few approaches to build it myself... but i've run into mental blocks every time (i.e. "how the hell am i going to do this part") that i can't break through sadly.

[nikia]

Please forgive me, but was wondering if anything changed in the way spellcast handles aftercast?
The reason I ask is recently I am seeing that my gear isnt changing back after an action.
example is when engaged and I WS often I will stay in WS gear, or if using BLU magic and the spell kills the mob I dont change back to Idle set, I stay in Spell set or few times even went back to TP set. This doesnt happen 100% the time but it does happen often enough.
Noting major has changed in my XML that I could think would cause this and I have noticed this over 3 jobs and 3 different XMLs
I do use the "CombatMode" trigger for handling status changes

		<if advanced='"%status" != "zoning|dead"'>
			<cmd when="aftercast|engaged|idle">CombatMode</cmd>
		</if>

Any help would be amazing, I did delete the DLL and downloaded it again.

[Cairthenn]

You may want a longer aftercast delay for your spells. If this usually caused by unanticipated fast cast values or (less commonly) latency. Because spellcast uses the resources to anticipate spell times, you need to account for any deviation from this yourself. Although there's a fairly significant default delay, it may not be sufficient enough, and if you modify it yourself, this is even less likely.

[nikia]

Currently the only delay I use is a castdelay of 0.3 for JA WS Spells cause I am paranoid of not getting gear stats on things.
This is a new thing and I know some changes were made, just didnt know if this issue is known or something weird with me.
If this is something I need to live with may I ask what a good universal aftercast delay to use for things?
It does happen on WS as well
I am sorry to be a pain.