Windower 4 - Discussion and Support

[Draylo]

Anyone having issues crashing lately?

[Sechs]

Do you use Timers? If so, which version?

[Sechs]

SUPPOSING the cause of the crashes some of us have been seeing with Timers is the "Buffs" part of the plugin.
If you were to disable the Buffs window, would crashes stop? How does the disabling work? Does the plugin stop caring for everything that's related, or is it just a boolean that puts display on screen "On/Off"?

If it's a complete disable it might be worth to play a few days with that disabled and see if we still get crashes, no?

[Draylo]

Yes I use it, it's the addon latest ver. I crashed entering a bcnm along with three others, then I crash when I get to character select screen again.

[Sechs]

"latest vers" doesn't tell a lot. Is it 3.4.0.6?
If it's 3.4.x.x it could be the reason of your crash altough your description doesn't really fit all the reports I've read about so far.
If it repeats again you can try playing with timers unloaded and see if you still get crashes or not.

[Suteru]

Is "Precomposed NPC" something that people actually say or is there a bug in my windower that's replacing what they're saying? I've seen it come up a few times

[Karizo]

Yes I use it, it's the addon latest ver. I crashed entering a bcnm along with three others, then I crash when I get to character select screen again.

im inclined to rule out timers if you crashed in character select, unless the crashes are for different reasons of course

[Draylo]

Sorry, it crashes when the game loads to full screen and it starts loading the plugins. My timers is the plugin version 2.0.4.2

[Sechs]

That timers doesn't work at all, for some of my LSmates they couldn't even complete LOGIN with that timers version.
Try to unload it.
You have to download the latest version manually from dev repository, or just use Windower Dev version.

3.4.x.x is pretty stable, unless you play BRD

[Motenten]

SUPPOSING the cause of the crashes some of us have been seeing with Timers is the "Buffs" part of the plugin.
If you were to disable the Buffs window, would crashes stop? How does the disabling work? Does the plugin stop caring for everything that's related, or is it just a boolean that puts display on screen "On/Off"?

If it's a complete disable it might be worth to play a few days with that disabled and see if we still get crashes, no?

If you edit the Timers.xml settings file, you can set the <enableBuffs> option to false to turn buffs off completely.

[Motenten]

If I still have the Double-Up Chance timer ticking down from my last COR roll, my second COR roll will not get a duration timer at all.

Still looking into this.

Second, the duration for Ballads is inaccurate. I don't think Timers is incorporating Eminent Flute, so maybe it's not hardcoded in yet?

Added Eminent Flute and Linos to 3.4.0.7. I don't have a Linos to test against, so let me know if there are any inaccuracies there.

[JSHidaka]

Sorry, it crashes when the game loads to full screen and it starts loading the plugins. My timers is the plugin version 2.0.4.2

I dont have any issues with that version(live version)

[Sechs]

If you edit the Timers.xml settings file, you can set the <enableBuffs> option to false to turn buffs off completely.

Yeah I tried it.
According to Arcon (though he wasn't 100% sure) disabling Buffs in Timers should be a complete disable, not a just disabling the display on screen.
I still crashed even with that turned off though.
So either: 1) Arcon was wrong, 2) it doesn't depend on the Buffs part of Timers?
I guess, at least...

Sorry, trying hard to provide useful clues since dumps are not working for some reason ;<

[Arcon]

Is "Precomposed NPC" something that people actually say or is there a bug in my windower that's replacing what they're saying? I've seen it come up a few times

Who/what says it when/where? "Precomposed NPC" is an entry in our race resources. How/where/when does it "come up"? In NPC dialogue? If so, which one?

[Byrthnoth]

It's the races resource and the translate addon. We don't have a JP term for NPC, so the JP phrase is NPC and the EN "translation" is Precomposed NPC.

[Suteru]

That makes sense. It came up usually in /tells about people leveling their NPCs or buying stuff from NPC. Guess I'll disable that addon for now.

[Byrthnoth]

Arcon says he's pushing out the resource with a new translation for "Precomposed NPC" now.

[Motenten]

@Sechs: Do you use any custom timers on brd? If so, try turning those off for a bit, and see if it still crashes.

I finally got a new crash dump on Timers, and am trying to work out exactly what the bug is. Tentative first guess is a threading issue, particularly between the internal updating and user commands to create/delete timers.

[Sechs]

The only custom timer I use is the Aftermath one, but I used to crash even before I got a Carns, and honestly I rarely have the AM up during LS events.
Can try to turn it off though, wouldn't take much to comment that custom function.

[rate]

Does the send plugin work across multiple computers or is it just for dual boxing on one pc?