Windower 4 - Discussion and Support

[Kainstryder]

Lot of times you have to save a lua type file or settings file with the plugin/addon unloaded. If you save it then unload it, alot of them seem to save on unloading which saves the old settings. Was going through this same save/unload thing last night with two plugins. Its a sort of annoying thing that has started with windower4

Just tried this, but still getting the string value error I posted before. Still needing a fix if a dev can assist though.

[Arcon]

Lot of times you have to save a lua type file or settings file with the plugin/addon unloaded. If you save it then unload it, alot of them seem to save on unloading which saves the old settings. Was going through this same save/unload thing last night with two plugins. Its a sort of annoying thing that has started with windower4

This is never the case and has never been the case for Lua files. It was the case for some settings files for some addons, but I don't know any addons that do that anymore. Saving on unload is discouraged for that very reason.

Just tried this, but still getting the string value error I posted before. Still needing a fix if a dev can assist though.

If you're getting this error it means you adjust the file incorrectly. What did you change to what?

Also, this is an awful way of doing things, since any change you make will be overwritten on the next update. If there's a bug we might be able to fix it. Can you show a screenshot of how it cuts into the HP bar for you?

[Arcon]

I'm currently having this problem on an alt. Every single day I will eventually get this error regarding timers and it always kicks in during a song.



I don't have my recast/duration in the upper left at all, they are all on the far right side near my party list on the right. I control this char via logitech gkeys

Does this always happen on the same song? I cannot seem to replicate it. Any other conditions you were able to discern from the crashing behavior? Anything that would help me reproduce it.

[Rehn]

This happens between chocobo mazurka and other songs (march above). I bind my buff/debuff songs to G13-G18 keys. I don't know if it matters, I play my chars on the same computer. Unsure what else to note, but this happened since the latest XI patch.

[Trumpy]

I was mostly referring to a settings file for addons/plugins more than the lua itself.

Pointwatch reset its positions up to the top left corner the other day. So I had to fix it where i like it at the bottom of screen under the chat log.. I also like it smaller font than it defaults too. I have two characters. I unloaded it on both, altered it, and saved it multiple times to get the settings where i like them and occasionally it would erase all the changes i made (possibly where i forgot to unload it first). Pointwatch would keep resetting my x and y pos all the time a few months after it was added to the launcher, So i just set a autoexec command to set the x and y on zoning, same with the ffxidb map zoom. It never seems to remember to stay at the zoom i like so i just set it to a zoom level on zoning to compensate. Havent tried either without these in a while, but what i got seems to do what i want so im fine with it.

I think most these problems started showing up when global settings and character specific settings first started gettin used. occasionally it would go bugger all and reset a specific characters settings to default. not in every addon/plugin but some of them.

Also Zonetimer addon for my mule keeps popping it back at the top of his screen. And I keep having to adjust it towards the bottom where i like it. Its reset its position a few times now.

About the saving on unload, When ever I alter a plugin/addon settings file and save it then unload said plugin/addon and i dont close my notepad++ that i use to alter these, If i go back to notepad+ it tells me "This file has been modified by another program. Do you want to reload it?" and so i do and then it has the old settings. To me that sounds like they are saving on unload. this happens with any settings file I ever alter. For plugins I used to alter the files for settings and just reload the plugin but I would get this error all the time so i just unload them then alter settings then load them.

[Kainstryder]

This is never the case and has never been the case for Lua files. It was the case for some settings files for some addons, but I don't know any addons that do that anymore. Saving on unload is discouraged for that very reason.



If you're getting this error it means you adjust the file incorrectly. What did you change to what?

Also, this is an awful way of doing things, since any change you make will be overwritten on the next update. If there's a bug we might be able to fix it. Can you show a screenshot of how it cuts into the HP bar for you?

I was going off of what someone suggested a page or so back in the thread about editting it myself. All I changed was what I listed; the x -104 to -128 as I assumed that was the pos and only thing I really noticed as a difference. Anyway, sure, here:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/b7dw1i.jpg

[Arcon]

About the saving on unload, When ever I alter a plugin/addon settings file and save it then unload said plugin/addon and i dont close my notepad++ that i use to alter these, If i go back to notepad+ it tells me "This file has been modified by another program. Do you want to reload it?" and so i do and then it has the old settings. To me that sounds like they are saving on unload. this happens with any settings file I ever alter. For plugins I used to alter the files for settings and just reload the plugin but I would get this error all the time so i just unload them then alter settings then load them.

Like I said, this depends on the addons. Some addon developers implemented it to work that way, but I've gradually removed that code from many addons. It's possible that some still have it. I cannot name a single addon that still does that at this point, which doesn't mean they may not exist, but I don't know which ones. The majority don't do this.

I was going off of what someone suggested a page or so back in the thread about editting it myself. All I changed was what I listed; the x -104 to -128 as I assumed that was the pos and only thing I really noticed as a difference. Anyway, sure, here:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/b7dw1i.jpg

Can you pastebin your settings.xml file please?

Edit: Nevermind, there are no text settings for it. I'll look into this. I'd appreciate it if you could come on IRC at some point, as it makes for easier debugging.

[dlsmd]

@arcon
distance and tparty(target hpp) displays do not hide when there is no target (live version)

[Sechs]

Since when? Has there been new updates? They were working fine for me yesterday.
If there haven't been more updates then it might be the same issue I reported many months ago (for Distance), which never got solved from Arcon but it "solved itself", I have no clue how, some time later after my report.
Which kinda suggest, if your problem is the same, that the cause could be something client-side and not within the addon itself.

[Kainstryder]

Solved the issue with Arcon via IRC. Anyone else having the problem, I downloaded the dev 4-1 windower folder on windower, extracted the tparty from there, followed by the libs folder and it instantly fixed the alignment after a reload.

https://github.com/windower/lua/archive/4.1-dev.zip

[Mercilessturtle]

Are people still able to run multiple windower instances? As of this morning the launcher crashes as soon as I try to actually launch the client if I already have one copy of a windower enabled ffxi running.

[Haborym]

Are people still able to run multiple windower instances? As of this morning the launcher crashes as soon as I try to actually launch the client if I already have one copy of a windower enabled ffxi running.

This happens to me on a semi-regular basis. It eventually opens for me after a few tries. I find it happens more often if I close out of windows rather then logging out.

[Bukadan]

For awhile now I've had that issue on my laptop, also, the 2nd window is twice as slow and laggy as the first window I opened

[Haxx]

As of this morning the launcher crashes as soon as I try to actually launch the client if I already have one copy of a windower enabled ffxi running.

I've been getting this problem since forever. It occurs intermittently for me.
Renaming the profile you are trying to launch fixes it for me every time. Just adding an extra letter to the profile name works.

[Trumpy]

@ Byrnth

I keep forgettin to post when i was on THF the other day //hide would change my online status instead of using the ability Hide. Im assuming shortcuts is the issue but i did not test it.

[Byrthnoth]

It is caused by shortcuts, but isn't a shortcuts issue. /hide is an in-game command, and I had to choose whether to prioritize JAs or standard game commands.

[Draylo]

No, but you can do "//alias find findall :Draylo", then using //find will only search your character.

Following up on this, any way I can make it permanent instead of having to do it everytime i log in?

[Arcon]

Put it in your init.txt file. I will add an option to Find to default to current-character search, because this feature is pissing me off lol.

[Trumpy]

@Arcon
Ok so weird thing and i was wondering why this might be or it can get fixed if its a problem. in my LS we have a guy who lives in Switzerland. He noted in LS that his tparty was only showing HPs. his tparty folder lacked a data folder and his lua had nothing about tps in it just hps. I had him delete and reopen launcher several times to redownload but it kept downloading the same broken folder. and then i was just gonna put my tparty folder on drop box so he could copy it over and the address was a bunch of random letters and forever long so i was like "oh you should use ChatLink" and so i tell him to download and load it up and his addon list doesnt have it listed at all. Keeping in mind this whole time im opening my launcher too and it has all the addons listed so why his is different from mine I dunno.

Eventually i get the idea to go to github and have him download tparty and chatlink there. and both are working marvelously (well he did say the tps were in slightly the wrong spot so he altered the lua and they are in place. I seem to remember someone posting bout a similiar issue already).

But we went thru our lists and his addon tab is missing autolock, chatlink, consolebg, logger, text. And his plugin tab (we didnt go thru the list but the ones you guys removed because of new addons were indeed not in his list as it should be) All the addons he is missing are ones that were added since the update and of course tparty was downloading incorrectly somehow. Not sure if he has any other addons workin incorrectly other than that one but. I had him make a tparty2 folder and put the good version in it so he can copy it over if the launcher keeps overwriting it with the bad one, and he also has the github link bookmarked if he needs to. Also since they arent in his list he went ahead and added them to his init or whatever. But we were wondering why he might have a different list or why he is downloading the incorrect tparty, the only thing i could think of it might be some wacky European something messing up his list?

He had to log and get some sleep tho so we couldnt get any farther than this but just thought id bring it up to ur attention if its an issue or maybe you would know whats up with this already.



Also if u make findall default to current character search will you also add some kind of way to search all characters so we dont have to //find :char1 //find :char2 //find :char3 and so on...

[Mercilessturtle]

Or just make it respond to //find by searching the current character and //findall by searching everyone, restoring the behavior everyone is already used to.