Windower 4 - Discussion and Support

[Sechs]

Byth, can you share an approximate evaluation of how "risky" it is to be using Remember?
On a side-note: thanks for releasing it!

[Rehn]

Would this also help when the server forgets to send the menu packet or something when you click on NPCs? This pretty much always happens when I warp back from reisenjima to spend merits/jp/etc. Attempting to click on a home point locks me and I can't escape it till I force d/c or game_exit from console.

[Byrthnoth]

Byth, can you share an approximate evaluation of how "risky" it is to be using Remember?
On a side-note: thanks for releasing it!

Well, it increases the number of "information request" 0x016 outgoing packets you send. The client generates these packets by itself automatically in response to corrupted data (which they can't detect server-side), so I would guess it's pretty safe.

That said, 0x016 has been used extensively by the 3P community only one time in the past, to check HNM spawn statuses without being anywhere near the HNM. If your linkshell had a series of mules that would log in and announce whether Cerb, Ixion, Tiamat, Sandworm, etc. was in a zone/spawned, that was this packet. There's no evidence that SE attempted to detect it or do anything about it back when that content was relevant, but it could have just been apathy.

Long story short, I'm A-OK using it. You generate them under normal, high-lag conditions with some frequency, which are the same times these glitches occur. It seems both difficult to detect and not something worth pursuing for them.

Would this also help when the server forgets to send the menu packet or something when you click on NPCs? This pretty much always happens when I warp back from reisenjima to spend merits/jp/etc. Attempting to click on a home point locks me and I can't escape it till I force d/c or game_exit from console.

I have never had this happen (also, no). Do you use any addons that are not in the Windower launcher?

[Rehn]

I use the custom sparks lua I grabbed off this forum, but I don't use anything outside of w4 stuff. I multibox as well.

[Trumpy]

what is the custom sparks lua? what does it do?

[Rehn]

http://pastebin.com/w0grmEZU

Just buys acheron shield for you.

[Trumpy]

wow that lil bit of code goes thru the menu and buys the shield?

[dlsmd]

wow that lil bit of code goes thru the menu and buys the shield?

no it skips the menu and buys it through packets

[Byrthnoth]

No, it just changes the menu option sent when you cancel out of the menu or choose the bottom option. Instead of just being an exit, it changes it to buy a shield. So you enter/exit oveover and over without having to go through submenus to get the shield. Source: I wrote it

Anyway, that is not the problem. Next time you lock up at a home point, try unloading all plugins/addons and see if it is fixed.

[Draylo]

SE should be fixing that glitch today with the maint.

[Byrthnoth]

I hope that fixes it. They seem less than 100% confident it will work on the OF.

[Karizo]

i noticed that my RDM gearswap (motenten template) is often times swapping in my enhancing magic gear for my enfeebling spells, which is then fixed by reloading the gearswap.

when it happens is quite random, but repeated spammage of enfeebling magic seems to cause the issue to arise sooner. haven't really looked in depth into any fuck-ups in my LUA yet, but I'm not sure if it can be a fuck-up in the LUA since it's not consistent. it's almost like, my enfeebling magic spells got assigned to the enhancing magic spell mapping??

[Scrynth]

No, it just changes the menu option sent when you cancel out of the menu or choose the bottom option. Instead of just being an exit, it changes it to buy a shield. So you enter/exit oveover and over without having to go through submenus to get the shield. Source: I wrote it

Anyway, that is not the problem. Next time you lock up at a home point, try unloading all plugins/addons and see if it is fixed.

How does one get a packet print out, so it could modified to buy other things: like say darksteel bucklers?

[Byrthnoth]

Add "print(choice)" below the choice value.

[Maurauc]

How are people finding the fixes for disappearing NPCs? It seems pretty good for me, but I haven't been on a huge amount since.

[Rehn]

Just had a moment ago where I'm doing escha ruaun NMs, and right after the fight is over the teleporter disappeared. Can't say how much lower the frequency is, but the problem hasn't completely gone away.

[wipers]

Getting lots of playonline viewer stopped working since the update the other day. Just complete crash to desktop while playing at random. Checked files they are okay very frustrating.

Same problem as this: http://forums.windower.net/index.php...122015-update/

[Malithar]

Not exactly a GS question, but is there a way to make a windower macro to re-enable GS after a cast? I'm trying to make a macro that disables GS, equips my midcast Geomancy set, then I select a Geo- spell, adjust it's positioning, and cast. After the cast, it'd be swell if I didn't have to hit a macro to re-enable GS, having just a single macro that does it. I've got:

/console gs disable
/equipset 050

Then a second macro to /console gs enable. I'm guessing I could use a windower script to do this, but I don't know the syntax to do /console gs enable after my Geo- spell. Any advice?

[dlsmd]

Not exactly a GS question, but is there a way to make a windower macro to re-enable GS after a cast? I'm trying to make a macro that disables GS, equips my midcast Geomancy set, then I select a Geo- spell, adjust it's positioning, and cast. After the cast, it'd be swell if I didn't have to hit a macro to re-enable GS, having just a single macro that does it. I've got:

/console gs disable
/equipset 050

Then a second macro to /console gs enable. I'm guessing I could use a windower script to do this, but I don't know the syntax to do /console gs enable after my Geo- spell. Any advice?

just so you know gs disable/enable is for locking/unlocking gear not disabling gearswap

[Byrthnoth]

I have a version of GearSwap that allows Luopan positioning, but it has a bug that I don't see an obvious way to circumvent with the currently exposed information.

The bug is:
1) You position a Luopan using the ground targeting system, GearSwap casts it there
2) The next Geo- Luopan you try to place, you don't use the ground targeting system at all.
3) To GearSwap, it looks like you just attempted to place Luopan #2 in the same place as Luopan #1.
4) If you enter ground targeting and then cancel it, it will place the Luopan onto the monster.

Additionally, I've added a move_target_position function that's only valid in precast and lets you change your position offset. If you feel like doing a little trig, you can make it always place your Luopans 7.5 yalms behind the monster even if you don't enter ground targeting mode.

Do you guys think this is an improvement over the status quo and want me to push it, accepting that it has a bug that I cannot fix at the moment and don't know when I'll be able to fix?