Windower 4 - Discussion and Support

[fantasticdan]

Is there a plugin capable of portering gear?

[Sechs]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Yes, that should be working, I'll look into it tomorrow.

Did you manage to test it in the end? I can provide screenshots if need be.

Also, it only happens as DNC main to me, with any Jig. Works fine with /DNC.

[Arcon]

Did you manage to test it in the end? I can provide screenshots if need be.

Also, it only happens as DNC main to me, with any Jig. Works fine with /DNC.

I tried, but I can't even replicate the error. Unfortunately I only have DNC49, so maybe it's related to the level. I did try on the test server as DNC99 (also worked), but there's a chance it's different from normal servers, so that may not mean much.

Does it always happen, unconditionally? Or only after you trigger it somehow, like a specific situation, subjob, previous action, etc.?

[Byrthnoth]

Okay, just pushed "shortcuts." This addon applies the spellcast shortcuts and target completion to single slash commands, including emotes and checks. /c4 becomes /magic "Cure IV" <t>. /check byr becomes "/check Byrth" (unless someone else is around that also has byr in their name, in which case it defaults to either the first option or <t>.

This addon is part of a larger "replacing spellcast" project, but its feature stands on its own so it has been released now. In order to make the replacement less of a mammoth add-on and easier to debug, it makes sense to split up the parts into separate addons. This also allows people to use partA without using partB, which may be useful if they have an aversion to, say, packet injection. The proposed parts right now are:
1) Shortcuts - Handles target completion, reformatting commands properly, etc.
2) GearSwap - Handles equipment changes in response to commands
3) InvisEquip - Converts equip commands into equip packet injection

I haven't currently separated GearSwap and InvisEquip, but Shortcuts is successfully split out. I'll probably have time to do it before the next wave of API changes (which people need to use gearswap/invisequip) goes live.

[Julian]

Bug report: Shortcuts, looks like geo spells crash it?

[Byrthnoth]

Yeah, anything with a non-letter, non-number character in the real spell name crashed it until I pushed a fix for it yesterday. I think it should work when you re-log.

[Sechs]

I tried, but I can't even replicate the error. Unfortunately I only have DNC49, so maybe it's related to the level. I did try on the test server as DNC99 (also worked), but there's a chance it's different from normal servers, so that may not mean much.

Does it always happen, unconditionally? Or only after you trigger it somehow, like a specific situation, subjob, previous action, etc.?

As far as I can say it happens all the times I use a Jug on DNC main (lv99).
When I do so the correct recast for Jig is displayed, but underneat I also get a Steal/Despoil recast of the same duration of the one above (the jig one).
It's always been like this as far as I can remember, since the first day I installed Windower 4 and recast. I don't play much DNC tho, haven't played it in a long time and when I swapped the other day I was surprised to see the error still there because I assumed it had been solved in the time being.

This made me think it could possibly be something on my end and not on the addon.
Maybe someone else with DNC 99 can try and see what happens?

[Terravcota]

As far as I can say it happens all the times I use a Jug on DNC main (lv99).
When I do so the correct recast for Jig is displayed, but underneat I also get a Steal/Despoil recast of the same duration of the one above (the jig one).
It's always been like this as far as I can remember, since the first day I installed Windower 4 and recast. I don't play much DNC tho, haven't played it in a long time and when I swapped the other day I was surprised to see the error still there because I assumed it had been solved in the time being.

This made me think it could possibly be something on my end and not on the addon.
Maybe someone else with DNC 99 can try and see what happens?

Happens for me, too.

[Fake]

Okay, just pushed "shortcuts." This addon applies the spellcast shortcuts and target completion to single slash commands, including emotes and checks. /c4 becomes /magic "Cure IV" <t>. /check byr becomes "/check Byrth" (unless someone else is around that also has byr in their name, in which case it defaults to either the first option or <t>.

This addon is part of a larger "replacing spellcast" project, but its feature stands on its own so it has been released now. In order to make the replacement less of a mammoth add-on and easier to debug, it makes sense to split up the parts into separate addons. This also allows people to use partA without using partB, which may be useful if they have an aversion to, say, packet injection. The proposed parts right now are:
1) Shortcuts - Handles target completion, reformatting commands properly, etc.
2) GearSwap - Handles equipment changes in response to commands
3) InvisEquip - Converts equip commands into equip packet injection

I haven't currently separated GearSwap and InvisEquip, but Shortcuts is successfully split out. I'll probably have time to do it before the next wave of API changes (which people need to use gearswap/invisequip) goes live.

Odd request, is it possible to add an option to disregard the initial / when hitting autocomplete, so you put in /invis and then autocomplete it to /{invisible}. Or is it easy to just create these shorthands ourselves?

[Byrthnoth]

Hmm... the only way to create that option yourself at the moment is to open spells.xml (in the plugins/resources folder) and add "invis" to the alias="" field for Invisible. As far as tab/auto-complete, I don't know how to mess with that at all. I'd probably recommend you just make an alias for //invis, but if there's enough demand for a second single-slash aliasing system then I suppose I could add it.

[Fake]

Won't the spells.xml update the next time resources does and remove any alias' you've added?

[Byrthnoth]

Yep! It's not a permanent solution, but just adding an alias to your initialization script would be.

[Vyvian]

Is there a trick to getting windower 4 to hook to the test server. Every time I try it crashes at the transition out of pol and before the game window opens, so I know its not plugins, it doesn't get far enough to load any. I tried turning everything off for the sake of it and it still crashes.

[Byrthnoth]

It ran fine for me, though I haven't tried it since the last test server update. Does the test server client work without Windower 4 for you?

[Vyvian]

It ran fine for me, though I haven't tried it since the last test server update. Does the test server client work without Windower 4 for you?

I didn't think to try it straight, mainly because I was wanting to check on something with battlemod, but it also breaks there, so I guess something is up with the install.

[Sechs]

Happens for me, too.

Good, so from this I'd be leaning to say this is not just on my side? How come this didn't get reported by anybody yet?
There are plenty of famous and reliable players who do play DNC? (Byrth?)
I'm surprised D:

[Byrthnoth]

I've seen it happen, but it isn't reliable.

[Zirael]

It ran fine for me, though I haven't tried it since the last test server update. Does the test server client work without Windower 4 for you?

Tried test server last weekend with Win4 and it was working fine aside from that old bug in real game version that putting <stpt> or <stal> or <stpc> in your macro would fire off the spell without waiting for [Enter] confirmation. Might be a specific plugin or addnon crashing you. try disable all.

[Sechs]

"Seen it happen", that's odd, it happens 100% of the times to me on any Jig I use. Been using DNC for a few hours the other day spamming Chocobo and Spectral Jig while doing Couriers assignment and it happened every time, I swear.
It's not a big deal hey, I'm just curious as to why this hasn't been reported earlier by anybody else.

[Byrthnoth]

Has been, I think. Bully also used to trigger my Warcry recast, iirc. It's just one of the long list of minor bugs with Timer's though. I personally find the multi-0s timer bug more annoying.