Geomancer: Findings and Mechanics *Needs More Handbells!*

[Hachi]

Pretty sure you can get Abyssea buffs and the area has no time limit.

You read it wrong: Draylo is asking why you'd skill up anywhere that isn't the Shinryu BCNM area.

That being said, I see people skilling up GEO just outside of Jeuno before the gates all the time which is... weird but I guess they don't want to choke their XI clients to death by all gathering in the Paradox? Who knows.

[Asymptotic]

You read it wrong: Draylo is asking why you'd skill up anywhere that isn't the Shinryu BCNM area.

That being said, I see people skilling up GEO just outside of Jeuno before the gates all the time which is... weird but I guess they don't want to choke their XI clients to death by all gathering in the Paradox? Who knows.

Paradox skill ups are one thing, but I personally prefer to skill up magic skills on worms or something in Abyssea while I do other things on my computer (programming ,etc) where I can check up on it occasionally.

[Hachi]

Paradox skill ups are one thing, but I personally prefer to skill up magic skills on worms or something in Abyssea while I do other things on my computer (programming ,etc) where I can check up on it occasionally.

That's fair, just-- the full context is "/smn to have more MP before you have to run into your mog house!" "why do that when you can park yourself before shinryu and refresh atma up". And the people I'm talking about are skilling up next to FoV books and are not casting Geo- on mobs, so I'm not sure what their deal is.

[Asymptotic]

Dat book refresh? But yeah I saw someone skilling next to a FoV book too .

[Roundelk]

If you want to skill up fast just eat BEW pitaru's use Indi's to lvl 170-180 and you will see skill ups turn to anus beads so head to Abyssea Ule. Conflux 5 worms using Geo-Poison and Geo-Torpor till 270-280 and you will see skill ups turn to Mongolian ass brackets so then head to Boulder eaters in Gustav tunnel with a refresh bitch/mule/friend to cap. Whole process will take about 5-6hrs.

Forgot to mention when using Geo spell you need to use full circle to remove the old spell and allow you to cast a new one.

[Kaisha]

Probably because it rebuffs you every 5 seconds. That does not bode well though, probably means changing bells that enhances the potency will make you lose the benefit of it, and that removing +skill will remove the benefit too.

I hope that is not true.

Could always test by level-syncing down, cast geo, then remove sync to see if your uncapped skill adjusts its potency after 5 seconds.

[Tambor]

Could always test by level-syncing down, cast geo, then remove sync to see if your uncapped skill adjusts its potency after 5 seconds.

I just level synced down from 95 > 33. My luopan despawned, however my Indi-DEX remained at +13. When I cast Indi-CHR the +stat bonus dropped to +6.

It appears that at least for Indi spells the bonus is calculated at the time of casting.

[Toth]

Hmm the worm soloing is interesting but way too dangerous solo outside of abyssea without a mule. What skill level can decent + worms cap you at? I was still getting elemental skill ups on them at 415 skill. Maybe You can just wait till a la thine worm party gets the worms to IT and take one (politely of course)?

[Slycer]

Hmm the worm soloing is interesting but way too dangerous solo outside of abyssea without a mule. What skill level can decent + worms cap you at? I was still getting elemental skill ups on them at 415 skill. Maybe You can just wait till a la thine worm party gets the worms to IT and take one (politely of course)?

Anything decent challenge or higher can take you to your current level's skill cap. Obviously it's faster against higher level mobs, but DC is enough to cap. Used to need EM to cap, but they changed that in the update that made it easier to skill up. FYI, the worms in La Theine will never be IT at 99. I don't believe they can go above DC.

[Fwahm]

I'm fairly sure that all non NMs in abyssea (except maybe ephemerals) follow the same level range: 80-90 for Visions, 85-95 for Scars, and 90-100 for Heroes.

[Elizara]

Me, I don't like skilling up in the shinryu area..Because about 10-20 other GEOs are thinking the same thing (ie. it's a good idea) and it's lag hell in there right now.

Uh. I'd rather not add to the lag hell. I'd rather skill in peace and quiet, even if I am going to run out of mp, lol. Just gotta finesse it so you can refill MP fast (like a mog house). I'm prolly not the only one not liking the lag from multiple geos skilling and would rather go elsewhere.

[Uzor]

My computer don't lag at all when in Shinryuu even with 10 GEO's, are you on PS2?

[Khamsin]

My computer don't lag at all when in Shinryuu even with 10 GEO's, are you on PS2?

Neither does mine, in fact, I am usually pretty good about not lagging in general.

But, of course, sometimes my computer has decided that it can't keep itself connected during a Reive. I'll R0 off and on continually in a three person Reive with minimal activity (literally just three of us tucked in a corner dragging a mob over one at a time while a pet is on the root).

The game is just funky like that.

[Elizara]

Uzor; no I'm not on ps2 but I AM on a older XP machine (it's about 5 years old) so yes, I can and will get lagged. I usually don't worry about it..Unless it's something like 10 geomancers trying to skill up; old skool dyn used to lag me too. Also some of my friends have been making pithy remarks about the geos skilling in there when they go to kill Shinryu (so it's not limited to older pcs). Heck, some have been making remarks about geomancers in general lagging them, and I don't know what the heck they play on. Prolly Xbox, but I wouldn't swear to it since this is the kitty with about 3 PS2 players on her flist. (Two have swapped to either PC or Xbox for the expansion, one is stubborn as a mule and is staying on the PS2. I hope he swaps to Xbox or PC pretty soon, otherwise he'll be missing out.)

Before you say "get a new pc", I'm working on it, but my funds right now are kinda meanger, so it's going to take me another month or two to get the money to build a new, hot, Windows 7 PC. Been working on that for months for that reason.

If people are curious about the stats, I can get them, but be aware this puppy is pretty low end compared to what you guys'd be running. I can run FFXI pretty comfortably on high settings in most cases on it, but I prolly tend to lag in high traffic settings more than you would.

[Uzor]

I wasn't going to suggest you get a new PC, I'm just genuinely curious what you're running on. I've heard complains about GEO lagging them, but mainly from PS2 players. Honestly, SE should add a way to turn GEO graphics off, my LS complains that the animation annoy them more than they complain that it lags them.

[Jem]

I don't have a problem with GEO's but fucking avatar glows and certain lights (like the ones scattered all around Adoulin and outside Port Windy MH) can be a pain some times.

XI is just horrible for certain graphic cards from what I gather regardless of how good your system is. Like certain parts play better if I force it to use my integrated graphics rather than my actual graphics card.

[Yeager]

Hmm the worm soloing is interesting but way too dangerous solo outside of abyssea without a mule. What skill level can decent + worms cap you at? I was still getting elemental skill ups on them at 415 skill. Maybe You can just wait till a la thine worm party gets the worms to IT and take one (politely of course)?

I've been skilling up on Abyssea - Uleguerand Range worms. Prime reasons? One, there's not an alliance full of Perle and Aurore running around killing the things, and two, THEY DON'T LINK! There is nothing more annoying than skilling up on a worm in Abyssea - La Thiene and another worm pops next to it, links, and decides it wants to sandblast your skin off with it's friends.

I did a 1 hour skill up session last night, went from Geomancy 205 / Handbell 199 to Geomancy 230 / Handbell 227 with the help of a Stuffed Pitaru.

[Trumpy]

for people spamming indi spells afk (especially if your using the lower level ones), what i do is /rdm, and use refresh and a geo refresh loupan (you can even use the JA to prolong this to 5 mins duration). the loupan will block the geo version from recasting til it dies so you only spend that 100ish mp every 3-5 mins. i never run out of mp, i barely seem to ever go under 50 mp less than max mp. so for afkin (unless usin higher level spells which might be too much for 8 mp refresh-i am only using serpentes set for armor refresh cause that is all i have with refresh for geo atm) outside with /rdm would be the same as atma skillin up. I have been playing regularly and anytime im done doin stuff or bout to sleep/work i set up the skillup. Id say its going decently, and im sure i will be the first to cap skills in my LS. If i dont cap today i will prolly be capped tomorrow.

I did try the uleg worm thing but didnt get a single skillup in an hours time but i forgot to kill some to increase the level but as im within like 15 of cap i might give gustav a try when maint is over

[TSFFXI]

If people are curious about the stats, I can get them, but be aware this puppy is pretty low end compared to what you guys'd be running.

Can you post/PM them? I'm building a cheap PC and need an idea of what lags and what doesn't.

[Elizara]

Okay, even tho I know this is off topic; you guys proly remember me asking in Tech about building a new pc and what budget. (Was trying to pick reasonable and I mean to comparison shop for parts to see if I can get the new one cheaper; I'm using the pc part picker for a ballpark, so this will change once I got the $$.)

Speccy Readout for Stats on Current PC

I'm guessing the lag is because I have less ram than most of you, but since I'm repping the whole pc once I got the $1k ish for a new pc(Need to save up about $400 more), I'm not getting more. This old thing tends to be touchy sometimes too, as in I've had some weird shutdowns lately. So don't ask me for it once I gut out the wireless network card and the hdd; My brother is going to turn it into a Linux box anyway.