Geomancer: Findings and Mechanics *Needs More Handbells!*

[chichicha]

Well, I agreed with all jobs are useful if the player know what the heck they are doing and utilise the job.
You will be surprised that in my Iggy runs, my Hoarfrost Blade DRK out parsed how many Ukon war, Empry SAM and MnK or even Rag DRK. All DD having same or similar buffs. Cor and BRD, in each party for DDs.
This is base on scoreboard, unless it is broken
It not because I am super duper DRK. It is because I know when the problem on the fight and taking the right food/buffs and which JA when to used to max my dmg.

Don't take it wrong... IMHO, all jobs could be useful if they know how to play to suit the current situation.

[CoreyX]

lol? I've never had any accuracy issues on PUP. PUP gets ton of accuracy equipment and is drowning in ridiculous amounts of DEX which also adds ACC, not to mention aggressor from /WAR which isn't even necessary. B+ skill isn't really that terrible or far behind from A+

[banggugyangu]

Your completely pointless comparison has done nothing but weaken your credibility. If it needs to be explained why it is completely pointless then there is no hope for you.

Protip: Provide a modicum of context.

Both in same PT with identical buffs and food. Mob was Achuka. What other context need there be?

[Dotsudoku]

lol? I've never had any accuracy issues on PUP. PUP gets ton of accuracy equipment and is drowning in ridiculous amounts of DEX which also adds ACC, not to mention aggressor from /WAR which isn't even necessary. B+ skill isn't really that terrible or far behind from A+

Against what? I said against some of the hardest things currently in the game. Mul? Don't even think about it. Your attack is already pitiful, and instead of supplementing it, you need to use accuracy food just to brush against 90% acc

And that's just an example of an event where it should be excluded without question- it makes no mention of the fact that it trails a mile behind everyone else when it's actually passable

[Toth]

Toth toth'in huh? Okay then. I would like to actually see a PUP parse in Mul to confirm what you saying though. Not % wise but how well their accuracy is, their ws damage, etc. The PUP should have all the same buffs as the other DDs too. Do not forget to take into account the automaton damage too. Show me that and I will fully agree with your statement.

But back to GEO....

[Dotsudoku]

Nevermind. The "don't doom new jobs to mediocrity" argument was borderline derail, this is just getting silly.

Carry on.

[nivlakian]

Testing out Theurgic Focus using Tiny Mandragora in West Sarutabaruta as GEO/SCH.


Fira II, 100dINT 0MAB = 600 dmg
Fira II, 110dINT 0MAB = 615 dmg
Fira II, 100dINT 20MAB = 720 dmg
Fira II + Theurgic Focus, 100dINT 0MAB = 900 dmg
Fira II + Theurgic Focus, 100dINT 20MAB = 1020 dmg
Fira II + Theurgic Focus, 100dINT 29MAB = 1074 dmg

Theurgic Focus appears to be MAB+50

[Drakus]

So if I'm looking to gear this what stats should I be focusing on? I would think MACC and Fast Cast, but after that, do I gear it like a BRD or like a BLM?

[Ryolen]

I love pup more than I care to share, but I know it's limits. If I want to go toe to toe with the DDs I change jobs. Sure, my pup can do pretty nice damage, but at the end of the day it is not a DD job. There are things pup can do that DDs cannot. Pup has the luxury of being able to do every single type of damage in the game, similar to Blu and Smn, can solo better than most other jobs, can be main healer in some lowman content, and some other neat things, but it is not a DD to be used at end game events. It can, sure, just like you can take a rdm to main heal, but why wouldn't you want the best at the event? Mythic pup however, can tear shit up real nice lol

Back to Geo tho, I'm really hoping they give Geo either higher staff skill or stronger nukes. I'm almost done with my Shattersoul set and the -10% mdt it gives is just pure awesomeness for some sexy nukage.

[Damane]

So if I'm looking to gear this what stats should I be focusing on? I would think MACC and Fast Cast, but after that, do I gear it like a BRD or like a BLM?

both.
get an idle gear set with at least 7mp/tic idle refresh
get a fast gear to set up fast casted luopans
get nukeing gear
get cureing gear for when you are /rdm /whm /sch and want to support cure
etc.

[Drakus]

both.
get an idle gear set with at least 7mp/tic idle refresh
get a fast gear to set up fast casted luopans
get nukeing gear
get cureing gear for when you are /rdm /whm /sch and want to support cure
etc.

Sounds more like SCH than anything, I can work with that. Thanks!

[Destinye]

Quick question: Were the more expensive spells found anywhere yet? I.e Fira II/Level 78+ Indis etc.

[dasva]

Quick question: Were the more expensive spells found anywhere yet? I.e Fira II/Level 78+ Indis etc.

Found some in skirmish I think

[Damane]

expensiv scrolls also drop in wildskeeper reives. got my blizzara and stonera II from tchakka

[Fenrey Varn]

Anyone know if the adjustments they made to geo Spells were better or worse?

[nivlakian]

Due to the update I re-did my previous tests.

GEO99/BLM49 DEX=98, Scythe Skill=124
Target: Bark Spider in Boyahda Tree
+47 acc, low evasion
+46 acc, low evasion
+45 acc, low evasion (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 45 = 73 + 124 + 45 = 242 accuracy)
+44 acc, no message (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 44 = 73 + 124 + 44 = 241 accuracy)
+0 acc, high evasion
+4 acc, high evasion
+5 acc, no message
+7 acc, no message
Indi-Precision, no message
Indi-Precision + 7 acc, low evasion
Indi-Precision + 4 acc, low evasion (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 4 + x = 242 accuracy, x = 41)
Indi-Precision + 3 acc, no message (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 3 + x = 241 accuracy, x = 41)

Target's evasion: 232
Bonus accuracy if percentage still: 210/1024~213/1024



GEO99/BLM49 DEX=98, Scythe Skill=124
Target: Robber Crab in Boyahda Tree
+54 acc, low evasion
+51 acc, no message
+50 acc, no message
+49 acc + 4Dex, no message (Total: (98+4)*0.75 + 124 + 49 = 76 + 124 + 49 = 249 accuracy)
+50 acc + 4Dex, low evasion (Total: (98+4)*0.75 + 124 + 50 = 76 + 124 + 50 = 250 accuracy)
Indi-Precision, no message
Indi-Precision + 10 acc, no message
Indi-Precision + 11 acc, no message (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 11 + x = 249 accuracy, x = 41)
Indi-Precision + 12 acc, low evasion (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 12 + x = 250 accuracy, x = 41)
Indi-Precision + 13 acc, low evasion
Indi-Precision + 14 acc, low evasion
EA + GeoPrecision + 1 acc, no message (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 1 + x = 249 accuracy, x = 51)
EA + GeoPrecision + 2 acc, low evasion (Total: 98*0.75 + 124 + 4 + x = 73 + 124 + 2 + x = 250 accuracy, x = 51)
Geo-Torpor + 17 acc, low
Geo-Torpor + 14 acc, low
Geo-Torpor + 12 acc, low (My Acc: 98*0.75 + 124 + 12 = 73 + 124 + 12 = 209)
Geo-Torpor + 11 acc, no message (My Acc: 98*0.75 + 124 + 11 = 73 + 124 + 11 = 208)
EA + Geo-Torpor, no message
EA + Geo-Torpor + 5 acc, low evasion
EA + Geo-Torpor + 2 acc, low evasion (My Acc: 98*0.75 + 124 + 2 = 73 + 124 + 2 = 199)
EA + Geo-Torpor + 1 acc, no message (My Acc: 98*0.75 + 124 + 1 = 73 + 124 + 1 = 198)

Target's evasion: 240
Target's evasion with Geo-Torpor must have been 199
Target's evasion with EA + Geo-Torpor must have been 189





GEO99/BLM49 DEX=98, no sword skill
Target: Stalking Sapling in Batallia Downs
+38 acc, no evasion message (total: 87 accuracy)
+39 acc, low evasion (total: 88 accuracy)
Indi-Precision, low evasion
Indi-Precision - 2 acc, low evasion
Geo-Torpor, low evasion
Geo-Torpor - 2 acc, low evasion


A percentage boost/decrease no longer appears consistent with these numbers. The test with no sword skill makes it apparent that they have changed the effects to be static.


Conclusion:
Indi/Geo-Precision is no longer percentage based and appears to add 41 acc w/ 746 combined skill
Indi/Geo-Torpor is no longer percentage based and appears to decrease evasion by 41 w/ 746 combined skill

[Toth]

So in your opinion, is that better than before or worse?

[Sechs]

Better at low levels, worse at high levels? I guess.
A % bonus scales with your "base" level the % itself applies to. So the larger that base, the larger the bonus granted by the %.
A static increase doesn't scale at all instead.

[Toth]

I understand that part Sechs lol. I was just wondering if there was data to support how much accuracy or evasion it took away from higher level mobs.

[dasva]

What about def/att etc