Geomancer: Findings and Mechanics *Needs More Handbells!*

[Kaisha]

Shouldn't be that hard with dark arts

Well now I feel more retarded than the time I GEO/SCH'd to Gustav and then realized SCH didn't get silence natively.

Sleep worked well. It would last 3-5 Geo spells, then reapplied with zero resists w/ no enfeeb gear, just Chatoyant staff. 19 more stinkin' Geomancy levels to go.

[Raffi_XI]

ls that im in was making the resident geo use evasion down indi and geo spells at the same time. I thought it did the same buff and didnt stack. Am I wrong? or is a geo debuff different than its indi one?

[Damane]

ls that im in was making the resident geo use evasion down indi and geo spells at the same time. I thought it did the same buff and didnt stack. Am I wrong? or is a geo debuff different than its indi one?

i dont think indi and geo debuff from the same type stack. geo-torpor and indi-torpor shouldt stack together.

[Aemora]

Hey guys,

I know there are quicker, more efficient ways of skilling Geomancy and Handbell, however if you are like me and would rather it tick over at night or for a few hours at a time, I've tweaked my spellcast to factor in food use.

	<rules>
  		<if spell="Indi-Voidance">
           	 	<if notbuffactive = "Food*">
               			<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;input /item "B.E.W. Pitaru" Aemora; wait 8; input /ma "Indi-Poison"</action>      
          		</if>
            		<if buffactive = "Food*">
                		<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 2;input /ma "Indi-Poison"</action>
            		</if>
		</if>
		<elseif spell="Indi-Poison">
			<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 2;input /ma "Indi-Precision"</action>
		</elseif>
		<elseif spell="Indi-Precision">
			<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 2;input /ma "Indi-Voidance"</action>
		</elseif>
	</rules>

Everytime you Indi-Voidance, it checks your food status and either re-applied food or continues the loop. You'll have to change the log to your name rather than mine when you eat food for it to work for you.

Peace~

[Slycer]

Couple of pleasant surprises here including enfeebling skill, which will be a huge boon for the job (along with sleep/sleep 2), and casting time reduction:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112...=1#post5738830

For easier quoting, here's the info from my translation:

In the next verson update, in addition to adding the job specific merit category, we are also planning the following Geomancer adjustments:

• Reduction in casting time for Geomancy (for both the Indi- and Geo- systems).
• Adding the "Clear Mind" job trait
• Adding the "Max MP Boost" job trait
• Adjust the levels for learning the "Conserve MP" job trait
• Add the spells "Sleep" and "Sleep II"

With the addition of Sleep/Sleep II, we will also be adding enfeebling magic skill for Geomancer.

[Uzor]

Wen is release slated for? I thought they said end of May?

[Slycer]

Wen is release slated for? I thought they said end of May?

"Early summer" has been the only information they've provided, so late June at the earliest.

[Ryolen]

Im convinced the north facing "lowers casting recast" is a myth lol

[Damane]

Changes for GEO look strong, lets hope AF/Relic/empy armor and merits are strong too

[dasva]

Im convinced the north facing "lowers casting recast" is a myth lol

Has there been any testing on the recast portion of cardinal chant? Not like it's going to matter much after the update nukes are going to have pretty low recast anyways and it's not like it's a heavy nuking job

[Shep]

Has there been any testing on the recast portion of cardinal chant? Not like it's going to matter much after the update nukes are going to have pretty low recast anyways and it's not like it's a heavy nuking job

Just finished some testing on cardinal chant. Recast on thunder 4 remained constant at 37s from all directions. Also tested recast on some of the -ra's and there is no discernible effect on recast. Not sure if this has been tested before, but for the Geo's -ra series of spells the western bonus from Cardinal Chant increases to 17 MAB.

[Kaisha]

So are the GEO merits an all-or-nothing approach currently? I dumped 8 into Geomancy for now, and it's not looking like I broke a tier at all on stuff that's easily checked. Everything else I've seen in this thread are just reports from merits thrown at both Geomancy/Bell.

[Uzor]

So are the GEO merits an all-or-nothing approach currently? I dumped 8 into Geomancy for now, and it's not looking like I broke a tier at all on stuff that's easily checked. Everything else I've seen in this thread are just reports from merits thrown at both Geomancy/Bell.

It'll probably matter more when more gear with geo and bell skills get added.

You need, what, 122 more combined skill with capped handbell and geomancy merits? The tier should be at 900 combined skill. So let's see, I'm guessing it'll be +15 from body, +15 from hands, +7 from neck, +10 from legs, +10 from feet, +3 from back, +5 from earring, +7 from ammo. That's 72 for a total of 850 total skill, so you'd still be missing 50. It'll still matter for other spells, but I think it'll be quite hard to break a new tier on Refresh in the first few version updates.

If the various AF pieces add both geomancy and handbell skill on the AF pieces instead of 1 of each (like 15 geo on body and 15 hand on the hands), then it'd be easier.

[Malithar]

Has there been any testing or mention of the effects of weather on Geo- and Indi- spells? Don't recall seeing anything mentioned, and didn't see anything posted on wikis, thread, etc. The recently translated Mnk strat for Delve bosses mentioned Schs using certain weather types for Geo's debuffs/buffs.

GEO: Both Geo have capped Bell and Magic skill, used Indi-Fraility when SCH has Windstorm active (first portion of fight). When Thunderstorm is active switch to Indi-Focus, also Indi-Fade entire fight.

[Damane]

Has there been any testing or mention of the effects of weather on Geo- and Indi- spells? Don't recall seeing anything mentioned, and didn't see anything posted on wikis, thread, etc. The recently translated Mnk strat for Delve bosses mentioned Schs using certain weather types for Geo's debuffs/buffs.

no this prolly is due to the first 25% of toji being very physical damage resistant, so they prolly useing frailty to -def down it. INdi-focus was used for m.acc so stun lands more reliable and indi-fade for m.atk down on NM so the nukes arent that strong. none of them correstpond wiht the stormspells in element. ecxept for frailty which is just happend to be so.

[Prothescar]

Haven't got the faintest idea why they were using Windstorm, but they probably switched to Thunderstorm for Klimastun

[Damane]

Haven't got the faintest idea why they were using Windstorm, but they probably switched to Thunderstorm for Klimastun

maybe for choke to lower its VIT or so

[Taim Meich]

maybe for choke to lower its VIT or so

Or... Trying to land Gravity, for the -EVA, maybe? Can't think of much else.

[Fwahm]

Silence!

[dasva]

For the agi so they can evade attacks...