Geomancer: Findings and Mechanics *Needs More Handbells!*

[Toth]

It is so sad to see the akaso grass and thread ah market completely stalled. No one is buying and there are like 20 grasses up and a stack of 12 already. Threads are about 17 atm. No one wants to pay 500k for the grass and 1 million for threads. Too bad my shouting has gotten nowhere. Probably the afk mules ><

[fighterx]

its considered a pet, so I would assume that atmas allways affected it.

Well, If i remember correctly, Pet Gear/Items ( such as Pet -DT), Dawn Mulsum, etc do not affect Loupans. If they did I'm sure Geos would invest in Pet -PDT and +MDB staff as well as the Pet: Damage Taken -10% Cap.

Also, I just checked a post from ffxiah, where someone did a test with Loupans and COR's Companion's Rolls when the job was first released:

From the "GEO observations" thread on FFXIAH

If you're overly bored you should see if Companion's Roll applies to the Luopan.

Not that the Luopan needs Regain, but regen is nice lol.

Just tried this, doesn't work. Both <pettp> and the plugin PetTP reported no regain effect, and the luopan's HP fell just the same.

However, before the maintenance today a LS mate confirmed that Companion's Roll was causing loupan to gain TP. Its HP was still falling (presumably because the regen was not high enough to offset the Dot).

Additionally, on the Test Server (Still using code from before the Aug 5th Update), Loupans are not affected by any Atma buffs. Regen and Regain atma provided no effect for my loupan.

Back on the Live Server after the maintenance today:

I went back to Abyssea and it seems Atma of the Mounted Champion (+20 HP regen) completely negates the dot effect on loupans at level 99. With 20 HP/Tick, loupan neither gained, nor lost HP.

Dawn Mulsum still does not affect Loupans.
Temp. Pet Healing items from abyssea do not affect Loupans.

Now assuming the Cor and Atma buffs affecting Loupans is not a glitch it makes me wonder if Pet-DT gear is now viable for Geo. Unfortunately I do not have any to test.

[Erlayn]

Whoever told you that NM was soloable trolled the ever living shit out of you.

I am getting this feeling right now. Even though the person/people were from the LS I'm in. Unless they really hate me that much I thought I'd bring the same question here as I posed to the Ls yesterday.

[Asymptotic]

Based on my skill experimentations mentioned above and reading back for posts of Indi-Fury's potency as people levelled up their skills, I'm proposing that the formula for Indi-Fury/Frailty is



I would like it if someone with high level GEO and 0 skill could verify the starting point of 8/256 (3.125%).

This would give us the current maximum of 35/256 at 810 skill (unreachable without Lifestream Cape).

It also give the correct value for pre-merit caps (32/256 12.5%) and post merits (33/256). So the tiers would look like this:


810: 35 13.67%
780: 34 13.28%
750: 33 12.89%
720: 32 12.50%
690: 31 12.11%
660: 30 11.72%
630: 29 11.33%
600: 28 10.94%
570: 27 10.55%
540: 26 10.16%
510: 25 9.76%
etc.

You can reach the 2nd to highest currently accessible tier with no merits and all gear enhancements.

[fighterx]

After discovering that Luopans are now affected by Cor's pet rolls and Atmas I decided to check if Pet gears (specifically Pet DT-X%) will now work as well.

So I tossed my Anwig Salade, and picked up a Selenian Cap augmented with Pet Damage Taken-10% and ran some numbers on 1k needles.


No Gear:
Luopan takes 351.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken-30%

Geo AF Gloves:
Luopan takes 302 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -40%

Selenian cap (Augumented with Pet DT-10%):
Luopan takes 302 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -40%


Selenian Cap + AF Gloves:
Luopan takes 253 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -50%

Conclusion: Pet gear now seems to affect Loupans. Still dont know if this is a glitch or not.

[Sofo]

Got 4 Akaso in like less than 30 minutes? What is with the price gauging? 6/8 on the body, hoping to finish it soon!

[solkanar]

For those of you who finished the AF3 fight could the elemental be taken down by an aegis pld with a pocket whm? I assume this would be a long dual-box but enlight should help.

[Ophannus]

Never played GEO but do your Luapons have a pet HP bar next to yours like BST/DRG/PUP? Can Dawn Mulsums heal them?

[kenshyn]

Never played GEO but do your Luapons have a pet HP bar next to yours like BST/DRG/PUP? Can Dawn Mulsums heal them?

Interesting thought lol expensive but cool if works Oh I see above the guy said nope.

[Erlayn]

For those of you who finished the AF3 fight could the elemental be taken down by an aegis pld with a pocket whm? I assume this would be a long dual-box but enlight should help.

I finished this quest last night. We took 18 people and there were multiple wipes by nearly 3/4 of the alliance. We did have a Relic PLD trying to "tank" it but to effectively take it down you need some sort of Wind Dmg. Like I mentioned before, there were multiple deaths across the board I think it part to the close quarters in which the NM is being fought. Smn's Garuda was doing some amazing dmg to the NM as well as RUN and their Lunge.

[Celestica]

For those of you who finished the AF3 fight could the elemental be taken down by an aegis pld with a pocket whm? I assume this would be a long dual-box but enlight should help.

I saw a PUP & SMN team well geared duo it to 67% before they wiped. My SCH friend and I (As RUN) teamed up with them and repopped it..

I can tell you, with Pro/Shell V, Barstone, and 3 x Stone Resistance runes that I was taking barely damage at all, and tanked pretty well.
Also had Regen V/Refresh/Phalanx up, and with 5/5 Inspiration merits + RUN AF Head, I had a total of 60% in FC, not counting the RDM sub I was using on RUN, so that definitely helped with Flash/Foil spammage.

The SMN using Garuda was doing great damage, but hate on this NM is so wonky, that it kept killing our SMN, PUP, and SCH. Only having me standing.

Probably took a good 20 mins or less to finish the fight from Start to finish.

Maybe go PLD/RUN for resistance, and have a good SCH/WHM present and you should be able to duo it finely. Hell RUN and a WHM or SCH could duo it pretty good.

[Yeager]

After discovering that Luopans are now affected by Cor's pet rolls and Atmas I decided to check if Pet gears (specifically Pet DT-X%) will now work as well.

So I tossed my Anwig Salade, and picked up a Selenian Cap augmented with Pet Damage Taken-10% and ran some numbers on 1k needles.


No Gear:
Luopan takes 351.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken-30%

Geo AF Gloves:
Luopan takes 302 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -40%

Selenian cap (Augumented with Pet DT-10%):
Luopan takes 302 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -40%


Selenian Cap + AF Gloves:
Luopan takes 253 damage.
Result: Luopan Damage Taken -50%

Conclusion: Pet gear now seems to affect Loupans. Still dont know if this is a glitch or not.

Very interesting indeed! When GEO first came out I was soloing it using /BST sub. First time I got Geo-Poison I used it on a mob then tried to Charm another mob nearby and it wouldn't let me. That right there told me the Luopan was considered a "pet" yet none of the Pet: PDT gears didn't affect them. I thought that was super odd.

I'm glad that seems to have been fixed now.

[Malithar]

I'm glad that seems to have been fixed now.

Thats the issue though; is it really fixed? I remember a dev post saying that Loupan's weren't actually considered pets, that they only used that interface and system out of convenience. So, did they change their stance on the subject, or is it an unintended bug brought on by adding -% DT Loupan gear?

[Damane]

For those of you who finished the AF3 fight could the elemental be taken down by an aegis pld with a pocket whm? I assume this would be a long dual-box but enlight should help.

killed the element easy as 2xSCH. I was tanking as sch via nukes casting t1 and t2 spells for 700-1k dmg per nuke while my friend was healing me. Was a relativ wuick fight. Landed a helix for 2k dmg that helps alot.

[Sofo]

Final conclusion on Akaso farming, please do not buy at the AH prices (single Akaso was going for 500k, 381k~ today). Suit up Trialblaze sickles and Agrarian boots like Sylvanica posted here. I don't think Critical Slice helps (never worked for me) but I still had it with me. Before going to bed I got 2 Akasos, next morning I got the remaining 6 (last one took a bit, but whatever).

So yeah, it's not hard and you'll save yourself some money. My pathing was usually go to frontier station and check the 2~3 spots near the station (iirc 2 north and one on the near paths to the station), then warp to 3 and there's 4 near (again 2 North, one south and east of that one, another. There's also yet another one in an alcove east of the one by the erucas). Keep walking towards #2 (there's one in the path towards Yumcax) and I believe there's another one there besides that one. It's not hard, but don't expect it to happen on the very first Harvesting point.

Saw someone buy a cloth for 5.5M on Ragnarok, was kinda wtf imo.

[dasva]

Is there any info on Concentric Pulse? Like a formula or something? Had soemone claiming his was doing 10k... while I can't seem to get mine above 1.4k so figure he's full of shit (probably this since everytime he says he will show me he never shows up) or I'm missing something

[Damane]

Is there any info on Concentric Pulse? Like a formula or something? Had soemone claiming his was doing 10k... while I can't seem to get mine above 1.4k so figure he's full of shit (probably this since everytime he says he will show me he never shows up) or I'm missing something

its based on luopan HP, most luopans have around 1400 HP. I dont see how he could surpass 1400 dmg unless he was able to give his luopan magically 10'000 HP.

[dasva]

its based on luopan HP, most luopans have around 1400 HP. I dont see how he could surpass 1400 dmg unless he was able to give his luopan magically 10'000 HP.

So it's just luopan hp and nothing else?

[Trumpy]

Akaso items were starting to get reasonable then just kinda stopped at 500k and now shooting up to a mil each again. I am glad i have monstrosity to distract me so its easier to wait for this bullshit. I do have some stuff to harvest things with but i dunno anyone who can craft, but like i said im monstering it up the last couple days.

[Malithar]

Saw something similar on Bahamut, 600-1 mil first day, down to 200k the very next day, then been going between 200-400k ever since. Hate when the price shoots up cause I can't resist the urge to sell then. D: