Colonization Thread

[Francisco]

I'm taking an interest in the Civil Registrar NPCs, if you ask them about the state of the coalition... they give a bunch of individual reports at once, and it seems they should vary... HOWEVER:

Each NPC is giving me identical reports...

The ______ Coalition is currently rank number 5.

According to the most recent survey, this coalition puts the others to shame!

I hope you're not afraid of heights, because you're incredibly close to the top!

You've been remarkable at accomplishing your coalition assignments.

Our coalition's rank might rise after the next evaluation.

(NPC then lists the services offered, and the current ionis bonuses...)

Is there any variance to these in the .dat files?

The two bolded lines are especially of interest to me. I've done tons and tons of Col. Reives assignments, but I've been Contributer for quite some time now. On the other hand, I've done ONE Inventor's Coalition assignment ever, and I'm still "incredibly close to the top" and "remarkable at accomplishing".

Coalition Ranks are largely unimpressive, across the board: Courier's is Disciple, Pioneer's is Contributer, the rest are all Petitioner.

[Morari]

When you ask the CR about the state of the coalition, they give you a general state of the coalition and how its functioning as a whole in Adolin. It has nothing to do with your individual standing (that's a different dialog anyway.) In regards to what the CR is saying, they're talking about and to everyone who's working with the coalition.

From what I understand the two lines of dialog that you bolded, plus the one right after, are all part of the same message.

"I hope that all of you aren't afraid of heights, because you as a coalition are incredibly close to the top. You've done remarkably well at accomplishing assignments during this current week, so our coalition's rank might rise after the next evaluation."

Coalition rank isn't the same as individual standing (or however it's stated ingame). And I bet it's English's lack of a second person plural pronoun (aside from "ya'll") that's confusing the issue a bit.

[Sechs]

What's the last (currently) coalition rank, Advisor or Partner?

[Prothescar]

advisor

[Malithar]

When you ask the CR about the state of the coalition, they give you a general state of the coalition and how its functioning as a whole in Adolin. It has nothing to do with your individual standing (that's a different dialog anyway.) In regards to what the CR is saying, they're talking about and to everyone who's working with the coalition.

From what I understand the two lines of dialog that you bolded, plus the one right after, are all part of the same message.

"I hope that all of you aren't afraid of heights, because you as a coalition are incredibly close to the top. You've done remarkably well at accomplishing assignments during this current week, so our coalition's rank might rise after the next evaluation."

Coalition rank isn't the same as individual standing (or however it's stated ingame). And I bet it's English's lack of a second person plural pronoun (aside from "ya'll") that's confusing the issue a bit.

This pretty much.

As to if there's other messages in the .dats, I'm not going to bother digging them up, but there's 5 I think, ranging from being terrible and might fall in rank, up to the posted message (or is there a surely will rank up message? I forget). Its essentially just to give an idea whether the coalition will rise, will not, or will fall in rank come the conquest tally.

Though I've never seen a coalition not rank up with the "might" message. Granted, I've never (nor has anyone) seen a coalition fall in rank, and for the most part, every coalition increases a rank every tally now. The only times I saw coalitions not rank up was within the first few weeks of Adoulin's launch. The bump to rank 4, every coalition on every server (afaik) went to 4, and with this bump to 7, every coalition on every server is 5 (afaik).

[dasva]

I keep throwing out theories and they keep getting debunked...I guess that's not a bad thing. If you get your last reduction @ 350 then there's something else I have in mind. I still think the first 50 imps aren't being counted for reductions but I'm thinking that it's not a static 50 per reduction. It may be a tiered system (seeing as SE loves to tier things in FFXI). So, first reduction is @ 100, then 155, then 215, then 280, and finally 350. That would mean 50, 55, 60, 65, and 70. And since the reductions were first introduced when Contributor rank was the max you could achieve, it would've forced you to pretty much cap out ranks on all Coalitions to get max reduction.

Wonder how long it'll take for this to be debunked...

So just hit probate on 4th guild meaning I'm at 351 used since I use in 3s and still only 4 reductions. Debunked!

[Malithar]

Spoils of War Intelligence (???), Traditional Armor IV (head and legs?), Medal Prizes II (???), Gathering Equipment II (+skill body), Town Movement Speed II (wishful thinking of it lasting in all SoA areas), and Arcane Glyptics Price Reduction II (just in time for Skirmish~) being added for most (all?) servers today. Spoils of War and Medal Prizes has me curious the most. Hopefully Spoils isn't as useless as "x mob drops y gear." Didn't see any additional gear posted that might be coming from Mummers Medals, so prolly just more fireworks/food/dumb stuff. -.-

[Khiinroye]

I'm just waiting for SE to come out and say that people chose the order of coalition upgrades for the bonuses they provide, rather than the order being the result of enter spam. The "durr, I dunno what this voting is" option is the last one instead of the first one. Putting the abstain option first would let the people who actually pay attention pick rather than forcing the updates to go in order of 1st option > 2nd option > 3rd option.

Another week till we can upgrade mog gardens due to enter spam.

[Malithar]

Spoils of War Intelligence NPC is weird. Talks about giving away drops as a lottery (edit: misread, he says "and then we make that information public via lottery), and that to view the drops, you have to pay 10 bayld. Not entirely certain how it works, or if he's just full of shit. Goes into detail regarding that the drops shown are only what dropped from the most recent single battle against that mob, but when I viewed Delve bosses, it listed every drop. Not certain if its actually a lottery or what.

When viewing the gear, at the bottom is an option that says something like "none of this is relevant to me" which exits you from the dialogue, and at the top is an option that says "I want to try my luck at the raffle" which takes you back to picking a different area to view the drops. They could of just made this a simple "pick x, view y" instead of this weird mention of lottery and raffle, unless I'm just missing something and there's actually a minor chance he'll hand you a drop when you view it? idfk

When I choose to see Skirmish drops, POL locked up. Windower 3.4, SC, recast, tparty, distance, boxhelper, and chatlink running.

PKR's unlocked head and legs.

Mummer's is... Prize Powder, Marine Bliss, Falling Star, Shisai Kaboku for 120 medals. -_____-

[dasva]

Spoils of War Intelligence NPC is weird. Talks about giving away drops as a lottery, and that to view the drops, you have to pay 10 bayld. Not entirely certain how it works, or if he's just full of shit. Goes into detail regarding that the drops shown are only what dropped from the most recent single battle against that mob, but when I viewed Delve bosses, it listed every drop. Not certain if its actually a lottery or what.

When I choose to see Skirmish drops, POL locked up. Windower 3.4, SC, recast, tparty, distance, boxhelper, and chatlink running.

You actually don't have to pay 10 balyd to veiw the drops. You pay 10 baldy for the "I'd rather try my luck with at the raffle" option which changes the drop list. Presumbably to what dropped another time it was killed. No idea if it was another random time or the time before. Also yeah skirmish killed me too

[dasva]

Interesting side note if you try to veiw colonization from the lobby area of monstrosity it says all cololitions are at 0

[dasva]

As far as mummers prizes only things I see are shield and fire works still and the more ass gear

[Maurauc]

As far as mummers prizes only things I see are shield and fire works still and the more ass gear

I think it's new fireworks. That's all I noticed that wasn't available on the Wiki page.

[Seha]

So, uh..what exactly is the point of the new scout guy?

[dasva]

So, uh..what exactly is the point of the new scout guy?

I think basically to let you know what has dropped from what for the n00bs that don't read anything online

[NynJa]

I think the NPC is broken as fuck, because it keeps crashing people. I dont even think SE knows what its supposed to do.

they want you to pay 10 bayld to witness its possible loot pool? the fk?

[fantasticdan]

Are people crashing without windowr/addons thou?

[NynJa]

Just crashed on vanilla XI. Interestingly enough, I had a second POLid open windowed, and when the vanilla XI crashed, it took my other acct with it.

It seems if you enter one loot pool and dont exit out the dialog, it crashes you. If you enter one, then exit out completely, and talk to the NPC again, you can examine the other loot tables.


Except I have no fucking clue what purpose this serves. I talked to the NPC at the exact same time on two characters, went to the same loot pool...and its different?

[pancakesandsex]

It looks like it generates sample loot pools for 10 bayld. You could essentially test the RNG for delve and skirmish loot with this.

[dasva]

It looks like it generates sample loot pools for 10 bayld. You could essentially test the RNG for delve and skirmish loot with this.

So could be a quick way of determining droprates?