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    Moderate Magic Defense Bonus seems to be 4 MDB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    So could be a quick way of determining droprates?
    Why pay the bayld tho? Ive already determined via ralking to the npc on 2 chars at the exact same time that the determined result is random.

    Although i dont get the lottery shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Why pay the bayld tho? Ive already determined via ralking to the npc on 2 chars at the exact same time that the determined result is random.

    Although i dont get the lottery shit.
    Maybe people want to know rates ahead of time idk. Seems more useful for skirmish assuming it stops dcing people since iirc some weapons dropped in both but it was biased to 1? Only thing the lottery did for me was change up the drops. And when you ask what it does it says make the info avialable by lotto so maybe that's what it means?

    Interesting to note it for some reason takes a few minutes before the balyd goes down. Also I just crashed on delve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    So just hit probate on 4th guild meaning I'm at 351 used since I use in 3s and still only 4 reductions. Debunked!
    Have you hit 360 yet? If you have, and haven't gotten your last reduction then there's another trigger because people were getting full reductions @360 before ranks rose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Maybe people want to know rates ahead of time idk. Seems more useful for skirmish assuming it stops dcing people since iirc some weapons dropped in both but it was biased to 1? Only thing the lottery did for me was change up the drops. And when you ask what it does it says make the info avialable by lotto so maybe that's what it means?

    Interesting to note it for some reason takes a few minutes before the balyd goes down. Also I just crashed on delve.
    1-to prevent crashes, escape out of the entire dialog then start over once you examine one loot pool.
    2-My point was theres no point in paying bayld as you can examine a loot pool, escape out, then examine the same loot pool and it should change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    2-My point was theres no point in paying bayld as you can examine a loot pool, escape out, then examine the same loot pool and it should change.
    I mean examining it really did lower my balyd it just took a few minutes to show up for some reason. But then I really don't know what the lottery thing is. Just a way to not back out I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsol View Post
    Have you hit 360 yet? If you have, and haven't gotten your last reduction then there's another trigger because people were getting full reductions @360 before ranks rose.
    Not yet used up all tags prior to last post just to get to 351. But I could swear some people had gotten 5/5 reductions without maxing out each coalition plus that was with alot less quests out back then... maybe it weights early contributions higher so spreading out helps more idk. Like it's not imps used towards completion of a rank up but how much you ranked up counting partial rank ups. So 300 might have held true because prior ranks were all 20 per and the reason mine is taking more is because the last 2 ranks take 25. If it goes that way I might not rank up till 390 <.<

    I might be able to get to 360 tomorrow since I have 5 tags right now so we will see.

    Idk feel like we are missing something else. The whole tons of more quests now is bothering me. It's almost like all the new quests aren't counting or just maintaining the status quo

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I mean examining it really did lower my balyd it just took a few minutes to show up for some reason. But then I really don't know what the lottery thing is. Just a way to not back out I guess
    wait wut? ok so examining a loot pool costs 10 bayld, and then doing the "raffle" takes another 10 bayld every attempt.

    SE is going to have to come out and state in better detail what this guy does. The only thing I can MAYBE think of is that it will pre-determine a loot pool for the pt/ally leader, so they can keep raffling till they get a loot pool they like? Should be pretty easy to test on outside matamata: drop bayld till you get more than airlixirs, then go pop and kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    wait wut? ok so examining a loot pool costs 10 bayld, and then doing the "raffle" takes another 10 bayld every attempt.

    SE is going to have to come out and state in better detail what this guy does. The only thing I can MAYBE think of is that it will pre-determine a loot pool for the pt/ally leader, so they can keep raffling till they get a loot pool they like? Should be pretty easy to test on outside matamata: drop bayld till you get more than airlixirs, then go pop and kill it.
    Looks that way though it might be bugged... or well even more bugged then it is now. Not sure why it takes so long to show up though. Like litterally several minutes. But yeah just checked and yeah backing out of it appears to reset things. So don't really get what the purpose of the raffle is... just to save a few clicks I guess?

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    Bayld spent always takes a while to show up on the col map. Earned too. Can just talk to the map npc next to him and see your total bayld there after talking to that guy. But yeah if you read what he says, he lets you know you get charged for viewing a drop pool. wtf this is for is anyone's guess.

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    To see what you would have potentially gotten if you some how solo'd a naakual at that very moment or something stupid. Hindsight this is all just to give us an idea of what the drop rate on certain items would be, like Yggrt beads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    So could be a quick way of determining droprates?
    Yes, that's my take on it.

    Also the initial loot list shows you the entire drop list for a particular thing. It's only a "sample drop scenario" after you pay 10. As far as I saw anyway.

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    I dont think its sample loot stuff. There has to be more than that because thats beyond pointless as fuck.

    I get 10 bayld is cheap, but whos going to burn through that just to "sample drop rates"?

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    I agree, but then again is the other intelligence npc useful for anything? The one that says the level of gathering, drops, naakuals, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I dont think its sample loot stuff. There has to be more than that because thats beyond pointless as fuck.

    I get 10 bayld is cheap, but whos going to burn through that just to "sample drop rates"?
    I think you forget this is SE... the people who recently brought you a treasure chest to put your gil in it so you don't accidentally overbid <.<. And then made it only store 100 mil

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    It's not really pointless after a new update, or if you have no wiki access (lolz). But for the former, like today for instance, it can help us quickly determine what kinds of crap drop from the Yorcia Skirmish with what frequency since only a few people may be reporting but many more will be trying.

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    Theory; one of the unfound library key items is from getting all three (I assume there's three now) Skirmish titles, since they were released in the same update Skirmish v2 was supposed to be released in.

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    What are the old titles, and what npc can you check said titles on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    What are the old titles, and what npc can you check said titles on?
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    Can check at the NPC by the fountain in Western. I forget the name, but there are only a couple NPCs immediately around the fountain. I think they are both 500 gil titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    Theory; one of the unfound library key items is from getting all three (I assume there's three now) Skirmish titles, since they were released in the same update Skirmish v2 was supposed to be released in.
    You get nothing from having only 2 skirmish titles.
    It should be noted that you get the title from the primary objectives, you don't need to complete the secondary.

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