Colonization Thread

**Tymon** · 2013-03-31 13:12

Hopefully the coalition rank progress doesn't reset weekly (assuming you don't upgrade it)

Because if it does I can't see any other guilds ever ranking up

**NynJa** · 2013-03-31 13:36

And just incase they had some secondary purpose about Reives...

They dont

Maybe they'll be more useful with the new KI's or whatever, but for now, theyre just junk.

**Obsidian** · 2013-03-31 15:16

Ragnarok got the Pioneer's Coalition and the Courier's Coalition to rank 1. Also unlocked one of the Bivoucs in Ceizk, and Ceizk's colonization percentage has jumped to 16% after being stuck at 10-11% all week.

Dunno what upgrades people voted for. Kind of afraid to go look.

**Gwynplaine** · 2013-03-31 16:39

I think this is how it works for Pioneer's Coalition:
Pioneers' Guild

Coalition Flag
Staff incharge of Gathering Goods II will increase - This is the new HELM tools for bayd. "Gathering Goods I" is there already by default its the regular old HELM tools that the elvaan NPC sells.

Signboard
Staff incharge of Gathering Equipment will increase - This is probably the new set of HELM armor listed in the update stuff. Agrarian Boots, Treefeller Gloves, and Dredger Hose. They increase HELM skill.

Emblem
Staff incharge of Gathering Technique Knowledge will increase - in the dialogue dat files there's stuff about getting like "crits" and different HELMing messages so I suppose it relates to that.

So really who gives a crap unless those things somehow allow you to dig up all kinds of nice items. They're all pretty stupid so voting for the flag first hardly matters anyway.

**Garris** · 2013-03-31 16:47

I believe there are also some different effect to Iosis attached to those, too.

**Malithar** · 2013-03-31 17:05

Originally Posted by Spira

2) Coalition Rank probably doesnt go down? So its probably a serverwide effort to unlock things, but they'll likely remain that way. - drawing a parallel with Abyssea in some ways.

I really hope this is the case, but since at launch, all of the Civil Registar's said something along the lines of "our coalition hasn't completed very many assignments, we may fall a rank during our next evaluation" or some such, I worry that its a system of gains and losses. If something as simple as 20 people doing a run or two a day for a coalition was enough, I think we'd be alright to rank up at least two or three a week, but it seems to be much more then that.

Here's hoping they alter the system based on how they see us using it and the level of activity it achieves. And as annoying as it'd be to always have to pick your option in a different location, randomizing the voting list would at least alleviate some of the "omg spam enter" syndrome we're seeing.

**Slycer** · 2013-03-31 20:12

Just for reference, I don't know about other servers, but it's only taken the half a day since conquest tally for Fenrir to build up enough credit in the Pioneers' Coalition to maintain rank 1 (rather than losing it). I'm guessing the amount of assignment participation to maintain level is very significantly lower than the amount required to increase level.

**Malithar** · 2013-03-31 20:43

Originally Posted by Slycer

Just for reference, I don't know about other servers, but it's only taken the half a day since conquest tally for Fenrir to build up enough credit in the Pioneers' Coalition to maintain rank 1 (rather than losing it). I'm guessing the amount of assignment participation to maintain level is very significantly lower than the amount required to increase level.

Seeing the same thing on Bahamut. Infact, Peacekeeper's is already at "You've all been remarkable at accomplishing your coalition assignments. Our coalition's rank might rise after the next evaluation." None that I've seen throughout the day, including only two hours after tally, have mentioned downgrading. So perhaps progress carries over into the next week, or its a rising and falling system in that progress towards the next rank can deteriorate over the course of the week.

Regardless, I'm kinda peeved that rather than knowing if the coalition will rank up or not, you're left with all of these "mights" and "probablys," wish they'd just spell it out. "At our current level of productivity, our coalition will increase in rank!" Can't wait til we get jewed on a "might rise." -.-

**Gwynplaine** · 2013-03-31 22:08

There is a big wad of semi-interesting stuff in the dialogue table dats pertaining to the mechanics of colonization if people are interested I can copy/paste it. I don't know if its of any use though since the exact workings are still intangible but still neat.

**Buffy** · 2013-03-31 22:20

Anyone got some harvesting points for Foret de Hennetiel?

Gonna try for some Saffron tomorrow.

**Obsidian** · 2013-03-31 22:30

Are Saffron blossoms used for anything? If so, I feel like a moron because I dropped the four I got soloing Lair reives out there yesterday.

**Buffy** · 2013-03-31 22:43

Originally Posted by Obsidian

Are Saffron blossoms used for anything? If so, I feel like a moron because I dropped the four I got soloing Lair reives out there yesterday.

Yah, used to make Saffron, used in the quest Exotic Delicacies. If you offered me 3 for 500k, I'd prolly take it.

**shepardG** · 2013-03-31 23:00

Originally Posted by Obsidian

Are Saffron blossoms used for anything? If so, I feel like a moron because I dropped the four I got soloing Lair reives out there yesterday.

3 plus a wind, cooking, makes ... some crap that's used for a quest.

Also, got the paralisis key item in the purple river zone...

run through a paralisis bush in chevik, get paralzed for 3 mins...... wat?????????

**shepardG** · 2013-03-31 23:05

hmmm... i appear to have been banned?

**NynJa** · 2013-03-31 23:16

disregard...let him figure it out

**Obsidian** · 2013-03-31 23:42

Originally Posted by Buffy

Yah, used to make Saffron, used in the quest Exotic Delicacies. If you offered me 3 for 500k, I'd prolly take it.

Annnd now I feel like a dope. Are these Locus Elutriators used for anything?

**Spira** · 2013-04-01 03:00

um.. i made a colonization map of Ceizak Battlegrounds.

first draft. i dunno where all the HELM points are. would be great if people could mark em out.
also, let me know whether its useful. if not then i won't bother doing the rest

**Ophannus** · 2013-04-01 04:36

Nice April Fools ban shit, I almost fell for it too >.>

**Calintzpso** · 2013-04-01 05:45

Dunno what the issue is, I sorta liked bobobo-bo bo-bobo >.>;

Question for the people that got the couriers ranked up. That improved warp, it lets you warp to the outlands and the three nations right? Can you use it to warp back to adoulin? I assume no for the nations as they have no Proto-way points, but how about from Norg/Selbina/Mhaura/Rabao?

Originally Posted by Spira

i dunno where all the HELM points are. would be great if people could mark em out.
also, let me know whether its useful. if not then i won't bother doing the rest

I've got a few points mapped out but I have yet to see any of them return to the spot I've logged/harvested out. Could be looking at a lot of spawns...

**Buffy** · 2013-04-01 06:53

Spira, it's absolutely helpful, knowing where the Reives are so you can avoid them is huge.

Also, having the helm on there is pretty big too, at least until people get the quests done - I think it's worth adding.

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