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  1. #1861
    A gigantic waste of space
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    Oh! I figure I should mention (Don't think I've seen any sign of it yet). Now that the Scout's Coalition is saying Torchbloom EL is being researched, I am able to use my tincture. I think I'll wait until it's fully researched before I'll use it though.

  2. #1862
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    Finally got back home and could test at Dimmian, still 100k for me.
    Here's my situation

    Fame: level 3
    Quests completed: 21
    Coalition Assignments: 6 (clear ceizak, preserve ceizak, support ceizak, survey ceizak, gather rala, recover ceizak)
    Coalition Ranks: Contributor Pioneer, Probationer courier, likely Petitioneer everywhere else
    Missions: All of them of course (so over 50 imprimaturs)
    Wildkeepers Reive: never tried, never bought
    Skirmish: as above

  3. #1863
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
    Sepukku is my Hero
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    Posted this in the bugs thread, but I guess it'll reach more eyes if I post it here.

    If you die in a reive, and crash while dead, your tags are lost.

  4. #1864
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Posted this in the bugs thread, but I guess it'll reach more eyes if I post it here.

    If you die in a reive, and crash while dead, your tags are lost.
    i thought they fixed that?

  5. #1865
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    i thought they fixed that?
    They made it so if you're dead, your progress doesnt get wiped out. This is specific to crashing while dead, since you dont have buffs while you're dead. I have a feeling this may be similar to crashing while dead with reraise, how you lose the reraise effect (or used to).

  6. #1866
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    They made it so if you're dead, your progress doesnt get wiped out. This is specific to crashing while dead, since you dont have buffs while you're dead. I have a feeling this may be similar to crashing while dead with reraise, how you lose the reraise effect (or used to).
    well thats shit, so in an unlucky event where you die in a wildskeeper reive (which we know happens quiet alot wiht 90 people in zone and a lag fest) and you crash at the same time before its about to die you are sol. what fuckign bullshit

  7. #1867
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    If you crash at any point while you're dead in a WK reive (or any reive, it'll just matters most in a WK reive), you lose your tags and you get fucked on loot, and your bayld just went down the shitter.

  8. #1868
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Posted that in the bug forum like a month ago. Can't get raised by anyone in the Reive either, even though you're still getting momentum bonuses.

  9. #1869
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    for what its worth:

    [20:21:36](2*) [GM]Baudle>> Hello, Kehhiko! I am GM Baudle. I understand yuo wish to report a bug you noticed in the Reives. How may I help?
    [20:21:40]>>Baudle : sorry was afk
    [20:21:53]>>Baudle : yeah, I spoke to
    [20:22:07]>>Baudle : verytus before, he was going to submit a bug for me since I'm banned from the official forums
    [20:22:24]>>Baudle : he needed some details, but I had to rush out of the house, and he said I could give them in later
    [20:22:49]>>Baudle : basically, I died in a <{Wildskeeper Reive}>, I crashed, then I lost my tags because of it
    [20:22:59]>>Baudle : so basically lost 95k bayld for nothing, and I know it cant be reimbursed
    [20:23:05]>>Baudle : but I'd like to do whatever I can to make sure this doesnt happen in the future of course
    [20:24:07]>>Baudle : to myself or others
    [20:24:13][GM]Baudle>> I appreciate your report and am sorry to hear that this happened. One moment, please, while I check on a
    [20:24:16][GM]Baudle>> related matter. I'll be right with you.
    [20:25:32]>>Baudle : alright
    [20:26:06][GM]Baudle>> What tags did you have, exactly?
    [20:26:20]>>Baudle : what do you mean? I like the reive status effect, I was unable to participate
    [20:26:27]>>Baudle : the little sword that appeears over your name when you're in a reive
    [20:26:31][GM]Baudle>> Ah, I misunderstood. I apologize.
    [20:27:35]>>Baudle : signifiying you're participating in a reive...np
    [20:27:44][GM]Baudle>> Kehhiko, we appreciate your reporting this and thank you for taking the time to make sure you contacted us.
    [20:27:49]>>Baudle : no problem, like I said
    [20:27:53][GM]Baudle>> This matter has previously been reported, so I am going to add your name and details into the ongoing
    [20:27:59][GM]Baudle>> investigation.
    [20:28:05]>>Baudle : yeah, I was the one who reported it...I think
    [20:28:20]>>Baudle : unless someone else has too
    [20:28:24][GM]Baudle>> Someone else has reported it as well.
    [20:28:30]>>Baudle : I dont want this to happen to others, 95-100k bayld takes time to accumulate
    [20:29:19]>>Baudle : to lose it and get nothing, sucks lol
    [20:29:25][GM]Baudle>> I am glad that you are doing what you can to make sure this happens to no one else. And we'll be
    [20:29:32][GM]Baudle>> adding your name. And on a personal note, I am sorry to hear that this happened. I can't even imagine
    [20:29:40][GM]Baudle>> how frustrating that must have been.
    [20:29:57][GM]Baudle>> So we'll look into your report of losing Reive status after crashing and dying. Is there anything else I can do
    [20:30:18][GM]Baudle>> for you in the meantime?
    [20:30:32]>>Baudle : no, thats all. I was told I'd have to give in some details...but if theyre not necessary then should be fin
    [20:30:40]>>Baudle : though, may be nit picking on words
    [20:30:57]>>Baudle : its crashing while dead in a reive
    [20:31:00]>>Baudle : atleast how it happened to me
    [20:32:08][GM]Baudle>> Crashing while dead. Noted.
    [20:32:22][GM]Baudle>> Yes, it appears another report came in and we gathered the core details from that call. Harvested, as it were.
    [20:32:25][GM]Baudle>> Kehhiko, I thank you for your time and for contacting us. If you have any feedback regarding the quality of my
    [20:32:27]>>Baudle : alright, as long as this gets to the right people, I've done what I can :D
    [20:32:35][GM]Baudle>> support, please contact us at:
    [20:32:45][GM]Baudle>> support.na.square-enix.com > FINAL FANTASY XI > Contact > Suggestions & Feedback
    [20:32:51][GM]Baudle>> I wish you all the best, Kehhiko, and an excellent day. Thank you again!


    doubt anything will happen, but I can say I did what I could. Wish they could refund the bayld since the logs should show I clearly entered the reive, and my attempts to raise myself were blocked by the lack of status.

  10. #1870
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    I doubt it's a matter of could so much as would. Bug ingame causes you loss? Deal with it. Bug ingame causes you gain? Take it all away and warn/ban/suspend you

  11. #1871
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    Did around 10 more Imprimaturs, still 100k

  12. #1872
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I doubt it's a matter of could so much as would. Bug ingame causes you loss? Deal with it. Bug ingame causes you gain? Take it all away and warn/ban/suspend you
    It's also a matter of literal ability. GMs are capable of creating certain inventory items, but not with all of their attributes. (A good example is augmented equipment, as everyone knows by now that GMs can restore the base item, but not its augments.) Likewise, there are things that they cannot do at all, as in they literally do not have the functionality/clearance available to them. If you do manage to strike up a conversation with a GM (rather than receiving a ticket response), and they're relatively personable, you can ask them about these things, and they will tell you. Some won't, but those who understand that it isn't company-compromising information will.

  13. #1873
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    Oh I didn't mean the GMs I know they have little power in that regard. And yeah I've talked to them forget who they said would have to do stuff like that.

  14. #1874
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    Just to add my current progress for the nakuul KIs

    Me:
    Rank 3 fame
    39 quests
    9 unique Coal. Assisgnments
    Missions complete
    Contributor: Couriers
    Probationer: Pioneers, Mummers, Peacekeepers
    Petitioner: Inventors, Scouts
    No Wildkeepers or Skirmish done

    Mule:
    Rank 3 Fame
    34 quests
    9 unique Coal. Assignments
    Missions complete
    Disciple: Couriers
    Probationer: Pioneers, Mummers, Peacekeepers
    Petitioner: Inverntors, Scouts
    No Wildkeepers or Skirmish

    95,000 KI for both.

    Started release night on me, about 1 week later on mule. Used all tags provided, no glitches.

  15. #1875
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    I got 9 completed quest, 7 completed assignement disciple in pioneer's & peacekeeper's, petioner in inventory. Was 100k until today where i used 3 more tags and now they are 95k

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    It almost makes me think it's not related to rank but to the number of total imprimaturs you have spent

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    The update notes say it is based on FAME which is some collective total of quests + assignments, not rank. Assignments are quests so just think of them all as quests:

    The prices of the key items that Dimmian in Eastern Adoulin (E-6) sells now vary depending on the fame a player accrues from completing coalition assignments and Adoulin-related quests.

  18. #1878
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    So you think that even with the highest rank of fame available that it still might be keeping track of fame?

  19. #1879
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    Sorry if this was answered already but if each assignment counts as a quest, does that mean if you use 3 prime one by one you're getting 3x as much fame as if using 3 at once? That means one at a time is the best way to accumulate fame

  20. #1880
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurstone View Post
    Sorry if this was answered already but if each assignment counts as a quest, does that mean if you use 3 prime one by one you're getting 3x as much fame as if using 3 at once? That means one at a time is the best way to accumulate fame
    Not sure if it's even been proven imps add to fame. I got to max rank of fame without doing one. But if they do it might not matter. Not all quests give the same amount of fame. Hell even the same quest can give different amounts depending on how you do it. So it's probably the same

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