Skirmish: Findings and Information

[Brees]

Update for today:
Spent 6 hours farming pyres yesterday in Moh Gates as only person in zone other than an occasional drive by miner or someone passing thru zone. I was able to pinpoint all 6 pyres to within 5 mins of previous time killed. Saw loads of green pyres (nin + whm) but no pieces. There's also a single mining spot at the camp I use that repops pretty frequently. I was able to go through almost 5 stacks of NQ pickaxes with no luck either. (I have both mining ki's and +skill legs)

[Slycer]

Cleaner Rala II map as promised. Somehow the "Other Monsters" title for the non-NMs got hidden or deleted, I'll re-upload later.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/images/0/06/RalaIIMarkup.jpg

[Cambion]

Cleaner Rala II map as promised. Somehow the "Other Monsters" title for the non-NMs got hidden or deleted, I'll re-upload later.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/images/0/06/RalaIIMarkup.jpg

Another possible Noetic Ascension Location is directly above the 'Start' in the small room, but it was a different variation of the map, with a T1 body, so I'm not sure if you want to include it, but just food for thought.

So far, our 2 Rala head runs, have both started at the spot you listed.
Our T2 Body was the exact same map variation as you (T1 Head and Legs)
But our T1 Body, (T2 Head and Legs) included more of the bottom map, and less of the Top map.
To be more specific, our T1 run, had Dead Ends at both of the Top Left Yellow lines your map has,
and at the bottom Right where you have the two black lines, we had access to that greyed out area.

Not sure if that helps, but perhaps we'll find a trend.
T1 & T2 Body Start Location is always <pos> <Map Number>
T3 & T4 Body Start Location is always <pos> <Map Number>
T5 Body Start Location is always <pos> <Map Number>

Using a T2 Head will grant access to <this section> of <Map Number>
Using a T3 Head will grant access to <this section> of <Map Number>

Etc and so on.

[Slycer]

I'm pretty sure each successive body tier simply modifies the area with a larger overall footprint and the same starting location. I'm also fairly sure the Ascension locations are chosen randomly from a common pool. I've seen ascensions in the same places multiple times on different size runs.

Do you remember what monsters were found in the area below where I have the frogs listed (southeast dead ends)? Were the NMs and monsters present on the body tier I run identical in the portion where the maps overlapped? Were they exactly identical on your body II run? I've done a Rala tier I before but didn't pay close attention at the time... I'll have to see if I have it logged. I'll check my tier V log also (kicking myself for not doing a better job keeping a good account on the tier V run).

[Gwynplaine]

I Frapsed most of the Rala run I did which used nearly the same parts as yours so I'm gonna check the video and compare its mob locations to yours. I do know the start location and 4 skeletons were in that same spot so seems likely it is not "random" like Nyzul.

Edit: yeah the run I did was Rala II/torso I/legs I, everything that I can see conforms to your map except for the noetic assencion was at the more northern spot not at the room with the skeles. Most probably then the mob locations are set which could make finishing skirmish easier and more efficient.

[Cambion]

I'm pretty sure each successive body tier simply modifies the area with a larger overall footprint and the same starting location. I'm also fairly sure the Ascension locations are chosen randomly from a common pool. I've seen ascensions in the same places multiple times on different size runs.

Do you remember what monsters were found in the area below where I have the frogs listed (southeast dead ends)? Were the NMs and monsters present on the body tier I run identical in the portion where the maps overlapped? Were they exactly identical on your body II run? I've done a Rala tier I before but didn't pay close attention at the time... I'll have to see if I have it logged. I'll check my tier V log also (kicking myself for not doing a better job keeping a good account on the tier V run).

I wasn't paying that close of attention, but based on memory, I believe yes. The mobs appear to be in the same positions. I know for a fact the 4 Skele's where were you have them listed, as they surrounded the Noetic Ascesion.
It seems odd that all 5 bodies have the same start, when the possible map is so ginormous. I'm trying to remember, but I believe there's also a possible Noetic Ascesion dead center of where you have the 3 dead ends, on the very SW corner.

[Slycer]

That's actually not shown properly, I need to fix that later. That room is actual two paths that go over/under each other. There are no dead ends left or right because you can't even turn left or right there. It's actually not shown correctly on the actual game map (it's not consistent with the other room to the north where there are two paths like that). I doubt there's an ascension there because it would be randomly plopped in the middle of a narrow path. Could be wrong though, does seem like an unnecessarily long dead end.

[Cambion]

That's actually not shown properly, I need to fix that later. That room is actual two paths that go over/under each other. There are no dead ends left or right because you can't even turn left or right there. It's actually not shown correctly on the actual game map (it's not consistent with the other room to the north where there are two paths like that). I doubt there's an ascension there because it would be randomly plopped in the middle of a narrow path. Could be wrong though, does seem like an unnecessarily long dead end.

Just double checked my notes, and I have an Ascession listed "at the most SW part of #13"
So, while it might not be where I posted above, my second guess would be the location just before it where you have an NM star?
But if I'm thinking straight, I remember running down the path to the Ascession (At a Dead end) while my group killed the NM at the star listed.

[mdkuser]

Oston just gives the option to buy rala visage I, faithful torso I and faithfull leggings I. No cirdas visage I.... its the same for anyone else?

[dasva]

I could swear I saw someone awhile back saying the could buy some other stuff but now I can't find it

[Arthars]

prolly the best day ever O_O got like 6 parts today within 8 hrs

Faith legs x3 torso x2 rala head x1

today is wierd NO ONE was in sih, rala, moh and foret.... i basically just hopped across all the zones with friend (split zones) and cleaved. friend even lost a part due to failure

all first green pyres. 2 cleavers in multi zone seem good for chances :D

also is it confirmed Torso V gives title? just saw the update on delve and prolly we need skirmish title for it....

[mdkuser]

Cirdas visage I/ Faithful torso III / Faithful leggings I or II.

Objective: kill 70 monster + 7 extra for 2nd objective, 50mn time limite.

Cleared in 30minute while multi-boxing: MNKx3 WHMx2 BRD.

4 weapons, 5 items in personal chest.

Maps are 7>8>9>2.

Strategy: follow the right wall... map from noetic ascenssion is useless.

green=start, blue dot=mobs, red dot= possible noetic ascension location, blue bar= map change, black= dead-end.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...psba540358.jpg

Augments:

Spoiler: show

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...psdda8f676.png

[Jem]

It bothers me that it says Ninzas on the item but Ninza on the right hand side equip screen D:

[Toioiz]

Oston just gives the option to buy rala visage I, faithful torso I and faithfull leggings I. No cirdas visage I.... its the same for anyone else?

This is the same for our group as well. Confirmed it with at least 3 different people, even though we had only done cirdas until recently.

[Arthars]

It bothers me that it says Ninzas on the item but Ninza on the right hand side equip screen D:

its 1 in inventory but when u equip, it becomes 2!!!

anyway, using visage I on a torso III still get ghast stone NQ and maximum +1 yes?

[macross]

Your luck is far too great. All my first greens are junk ores and crap. Has been no one farming the zones just miners here but somehow I don't get shit lol.

[Toioiz]

its 1 in inventory but when u equip, it becomes 2!!!

anyway, using visage I on a torso III still get ghast stone NQ and maximum +1 yes?

No, we've gotten +2 stones with a visage I

[Arthars]

No, we've gotten +2 stones with a visage I

oshit good to know

Your luck is far too great. All my first greens are junk ores and crap. Has been no one farming the zones just miners here but somehow I don't get shit lol.

haha yea now with my friend cleaving as well, we double the luck in more zones now O_O My stalking skills across zones is pretty impressive!

[Forsakengriever]

Does anyone here have personal experience in Skirmish? I was curious about its difficulty and the drop rate. I know that the higher tier entry items yield better results, but how much better? Does it justify the several mil increase among items, or it is only a little better?

[mdkuser]

is that new?

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...psafc0d0f7.png

nothing special in the final chest lol.