Skirmish: Findings and Information

[Slycer]

I'm not sure what's being asked about an 11th NM, our goals were goal 1 kill 8, goal 2 killing remaining (3) NMs, and all 11 are referenced on the map posted. Only thing left to add is we had an acsension in the small room 2 blocks directly above the start.

Yeah never mind, dumb question. Both spiders were already on the map, lol.

[Fondue]

cirdas3 head, 4 body, 2 legs yielded 5 weapons 6 drops in each chest cleared both objectives

nobody got +2 stones a few +1.. not sure it was worth the pricetag!

[Kidnoftle]

Failing a Pyre does NOT reset the skirmish item repop (if there is one). A friend did this

Fail Rala Visage I
Got Pebble in next item Pyre
Zoned out to do a quest and came back to zone after
Got Rala Visage II in Pyre ~30 mins after initial failed Pyre

Good to know but not really conclusive of anything. If he had gotten a back to back with being successful on the first one then we'd have something interesting.

[Arthars]

i tried rezone thingy as well yesterday.... but the next item pyre after i opened a visage only appeared 2,5 hrs later and its another visage.......

back to back but damn pyre took too long to pop for me to conclude anything -_-

also got cirdas visage IV from logging in ceizak

does IV and V only come from HELM and reives?

for peep who been using body IV and V here, how did you get yours?

[dasva]

Good to know but not really conclusive of anything. If he had gotten a back to back with being successful on the first one then we'd have something interesting.

While sure it doesn't tell us for sure that you can get them back to back it's good to know that if you do lose one you can still get right away.

[Slycer]

Rala V draft.

Items missing from map are noted on map:
Karst Crab x2 (NMs)
Diremite Assailant x2
Slashmaw Pugil x2
Watermarked Crab x3

I'm 95% certain that pugils and crabs only appear on IV and V body runs, and then the slimes of all varieties only appear on tier V runs. The diremites might appear on lower (tier 3 or something, idk). There are also 2 Bufobrawlers (normal frogs) that are in the dats and missing from the map (6 total). I doubt that the only mobs that aren't used on the actual map are 2 random frogs, so I'm pretty sure there's another room somewhere, probably a platform in a hallway, with 2 frogs.

People in my group who passed those monsters on our tier V run said that there was one big open room with the three Watermarked Crab and one Karst Crab in the middle. I'm guessing the other Karst Crab was out on one of those smaller open platforms in an adjacent hallway to the big room where the main Crab was, and I'm guessing the 2 pugils were out on another open platform somewhere. Same with the diremites. Problem is, I have no idea which room this is. My best guess would be the southwest room, the big room west of where the southern skeletons are. It's also possible that they are in the big room west of where you start, but that section may not even be accessible as I'm not really sure where the walls are up. There's a lot of unmarked space on the map and not many monsters left to add, so I'm sure a lot of that space is inaccessible. Anyone have any idea based on map below and previous experience with high tier runs?

FYI, there are 10 Noetic Ascensions in the dats, so there should be 10 possible locations. We've got five of them so far.




Random semi-related note: there are 126 monsters in the tables for Cirdas [U], and also 10 Ascensions.

[Zirael]

you get +2 stones apparently only when getting chest level ups? The only time we got +2 stones were with chest level up (got another one yesterday in cirdas). And high tier heads are a waste until people figure out how to level up chests (high tier heads might just make it easier to level up). The tier II/III head i used didnt give anything special but the useless geo spells that nobody wants to buy.

It seems you dont have to just kill the mobs, but kill them in a certain manner (very fast? by pairs in rala?alternating mob types? idfk). Would explain why people finish in 30min when the time limite is 1 hour.

Mind elaborating what you mean by chest level up? Is there a special message for that? Or an animation? When I got my +2 in Cirdas, we didn't really do anything special, just run together and kill stuff that aggrod. I was thinking it might be related to how fast you reach the default objective completion or second objective completion, but @5 peope we were slower than a 6-man party, obviously.

[Arthars]

there is a message stating your treasure coffer levels in stars.

he had a SS a few pages back

also augmented crobaci with +1 stomne and got D26 3 dex

[mdkuser]

Mind elaborating what you mean by chest level up? Is there a special message for that? Or an animation? When I got my +2 in Cirdas, we didn't really do anything special, just run together and kill stuff that aggrod. I was thinking it might be related to how fast you reach the default objective completion or second objective completion, but @5 peope we were slower than a 6-man party, obviously.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/115...=1#post5691414

whats known from the dats: up to five stars possible:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/115...=1#post5666481

I got skill ups at three diffenrent occasions, 2 of which gave +2 stones on at least 1 pt member.

Skill ups happened at the 20% and 40% completion tally for me, so I assume you can get a skill up at each tally for a total of 5 stars.

[Arthars]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/115...=1#post5691414

whats known from the dats: up to five stars possible:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/115...=1#post5666481

I got skill ups at three diffenrent occasions, 2 of which gave +2 stones on at least 1 pt member.

Skill ups happened at the 20% and 40% completion tally for me, so I assume you can get a skill up at each tally for a total of 5 stars.

do all of you travel together and gank the shit out of the NM?

we usually split in 3 groups.... maybe gank speed affects stars in rala?

[Slycer]

Map markups of first Rala runs for tier I, II, and III torsos, based on info in this thread and my personal run experience. Will add more ascension locations as we find them. Need confirmation on Crab NM locations to finish tier IV and tier V maps. Also, any info for higher tier Skirmish runs (maps, monster placement, etc.) would be helpful, I don’t have any information past tier I so far.

Also posted on wiki at:

Rala Waterways (U)

http://www.bg-wiki.net/images/2/20/RalaImarkup.jpg

http://www.bg-wiki.net/images/8/87/RalaIIMarkup_r1.jpg

http://www.bg-wiki.net/images/1/1d/RalaIIImarkup.jpg

[chichicha]

Is skirmish officially dead now?!

Providing that their weapon doesn't give any special aftermath or w/e super stat comparing to Delve.

[Byrthnoth]

1H jobs only have easy access to one good weapon from Delve, which leaves them either offhanding nothing or wanting a Skirmish weapon still. Also, the mage Skirmish weapons are better than the Delve ones if augmented well.

[Jem]

I know on Asura at least seemingly nobody is touching Skirmish. Tons of Skirmish parts on the AH with none being bought. So I assume everyone came to the same conclusion and tried to offload their parts. I know I did and I haven't been able to sell them for shit.

Half tempted to just pick up a Torso and use the 2 parts I have just to see if I get something to tide me by on my lesser used jobs.

[Toioiz]

The idea (at least mine) is that items from skirmish have also dropped, we can't sell our geomancer spells, or ingots for anything decent. Because of that, we aren't buying pop items more than 1-2mil, because we won't make any decent amount of our money back, and the weapons aren't super fantastic.

[Sechs]

Half tempted to just pick up a Torso and use the 2 parts I have just to see if I get something to tide me by on my lesser used jobs.

I suggest you do that and invite me in your party before you enter.
Totally non-interested suggestion.

[Jem]

I suggest you do that and invite me in your party before you enter.
Totally non-interested suggestion.

You're never online when I play now I'm in the states. I don't get back home from work until midnight in Italy so basically the only times we'd be online together is the weekend. It's why I'm never on Chroma anymore

[chichicha]

You're never online when I play now I'm in the states. I don't get back home from work until midnight in Italy so basically the only times we'd be online together is the weekend. It's why I'm never on Chroma anymore

Ignore Sechs, invite me

[Sechs]

I was kinda kidding but thanks for taking me seriously lol <3 <3 <3

[Slycer]

Also, the mage Skirmish weapons are better than the Delve ones if augmented well.

Assuming the weapons are upgraded with remotely relevant augments from Delve, this most assuredly won't be the case after upgrading.