Naakual - Notes, Strategies, confirmed drops~

[blasphemy]

Does smn dmg work at low colonization rates? More specially on tree

under 20% only cor can damage it.

[Ophannus]

To follow up, even though Bayld/EXP caps at 25,000, upon killing the Naakual, you get a bonus too, in my case it was 2250.

[Therin]

To follow up, even though Bayld/EXP caps at 25,000, upon killing the Naakual, you get a bonus too, in my case it was 2250.

Pretty sure I had more than 25,000 today.

[torasu]

Pretty sure I had more than 25,000 today.

Capped out at 25k exp/bayld on that very same WKR halfway through with a 2.25k bonus at the end

[dejet]

I think its safe to say that 25k is the cap. Like I said its the number I got as a tank for the bird. I find it very hard to think that normal DD can be getting twice as much as I was. I was hitting it for a decent amount of dmg, taking tons of dmg. spaming cures on other tanks and so on.

There is little I could of done to get more then I did.

800~1.2k per was the number as well. This was off less then a 50min fight too. At first I just thought it was short.

[dasva]

Also since Magian Staves are +70 acc, shouldn't most people choose the Yumcax club for that new quest for the +90 m.acc since it's basically all magian acc staves in one but with significantly more m.acc and inventory+6?

Personally I'd basically chose whatever I don't have. Given the lame drop system of being able to get the same item over and over and over again it could take forever to get that last thing you want so best might be best to save the choose for that

[dasva]

I think its safe to say that 25k is the cap. Like I said its the number I got as a tank for the bird. I find it very hard to think that normal DD can be getting twice as much as I was. I was hitting it for a decent amount of dmg, taking tons of dmg. spaming cures on other tanks and so on.

There is little I could of done to get more then I did.

800~1.2k per was the number as well. This was off less then a 50min fight too. At first I just thought it was short.

I had someone claim he got like 33k... but heres the thing I was doing the whole pld/dnc super tanking 10 mobs at one point thing. I litterally stopped getting xp at like 80% because I was getting so much credit that my xp far outstripped my baldy. And then I stopped getting baldy and at around 70% which going back and doing the math was 25k. I don't know how you else to explain how I could get 25k in 30% nm health and then litterally 0 doing the same thing for the next 70% of the nms hp... hell I even started fighting my adds and nothing. Went and attacked the nm and nothing. So it sounds like anyone who got more either glitched or they miscounted or wrote the number down wrong.... that's why I screenshot before lol

[Ophannus]

If you got more than 25k Bayld/EXP from WKR, use the Reive addon for windower and screenshot it like I did, otherwise poidh.

[Damane]

Prepatch you could, but I guess they capped so you don't get more than the entry KI. Although I wonder what the cap is on KI reduction? My KI is 30k for first 3, so 25k basically makes them free(not that any of their gear is relevant thanks to Delve). I wonder how nuts delve version of Yumcax club and Hurkan head will be >.>



Also since Magian Staves are +70 acc, shouldn't most people choose the Yumcax club for that new quest for the +90 m.acc since it's basically all magian acc staves in one but with significantly more m.acc and inventory+6?

is the 70 m.acc confirmed? yet some magian staves are still nice due to the -recast they have (dark light and thunder come to mind) and bard cabt use the club.

[Toth]

Has anyone figured out just what magic damage + is?

[Shenrien]

Tamaxchi does not apply the 15 healing magic skill onto cures, despite it not showing up in your skill list, I do not know what it is doing on the weapon but my Cure4's with Arka IV were doing 900 before getting the club, putting it on and going out and casting cure on myself I capped out at 901, where as it should be doing 910. Slightly disappointing but whatever, I'll take it for what it is.

[Flippant]

Has anyone figured out just what magic damage + is?

It adds to the D of a spell.

Tamaxchi does not apply the 15 healing magic skill onto cures, despite it not showing up in your skill list, I do not know what it is doing on the weapon but my Cure4's with Arka IV were doing 900 before getting the club, putting it on and going out and casting cure on myself I capped out at 901, where as it should be doing 910. Slightly disappointing but whatever, I'll take it for what it is.

Well, lol. Friend tested this too, and indeed the healing magic skill did nothing, so I went to look at the club in Japanese text. There is no healing skill + listed on it (nor in German for that matter).

[Slycer]

FYI, the amount of Bayld you can get seems to have a varying cap based on when you entered. I entered a Hurkan when it was at 55% and my Bayld hit the cap at about 13000 Bayld (still got 2250 final with normal item drops). Probably just proportional to fight progress at the time of entry, maybe tiered.

[Therin]

FYI, the amount of Bayld you can get seems to have a varying cap based on when you entered. I entered a Hurkan when it was at 55% and my Bayld hit the cap at about 13000 Bayld (still got 2250 final with normal item drops). Probably just proportional to fight progress at the time of entry, maybe tiered.

Generally the cap is based off of the objective's HP. In a Colo Reive, it's based off of the HP of the roots/whatever. It would make since that in a WKR, it's based off of the HP of the Naakual. So if you entered at 55%, you got 55% of the theoretical max. 13,000 / 25,000 = 52%. So it makes sense.

Unfortunately, my Reive tracker or whatever it is (the windower add-on) said I got 27,XXX from Hurkan yesterday (and this was before the bonus at the end).. so I'm not sure what happened there. Something was amiss, clearly. Might have been a dual box chat over lap thing?

[fantasticdan]

25k cap doesn't include the final bonus, which has always been 2250 for me, barring the time I didn't get exp/bayld at all.

I've hit 25k entering at 88%, so I don't think it scales to very specific degrees. From the numbers I've seen people claim, I'd guess there are 3 levels; 100%, 50%, and you ain't getting shit.

[TummieGaruda]

Also since Magian Staves are +70 acc, shouldn't most people choose the Yumcax club for that new quest for the +90 m.acc since it's basically all magian acc staves in one but with significantly more m.acc and inventory+6?

Quick napkin math shows that when using Thunder V, club beats out Magian Affinity staff in terms of damage when the dINT is less than around 90-94. The m.acc though is quite large so yeah inventory +6 if you get that club.

[dasva]

Quick napkin math shows that when using Thunder V, club beats out Magian Affinity staff in terms of damage when the dINT is less than around 90-94. The m.acc though is quite large so yeah inventory +6 if you get that club.

Of course normally you wouldn't nuke in the macc affinity staffs anyways lol.

[TummieGaruda]

Of course normally you wouldn't nuke in the macc affinity staffs anyways lol.

The comparison was using the +DMG affinity staffs. The Magic acc I referenced was from the club.

[dasva]

The comparison was using the +DMG affinity staffs. The Magic acc I referenced was from the club.

I think your math may be a tad off then... you didn't mention starting mab which matters.

Not sure if the values have been retested since release and I think SE changed it but the values in the update notes have thunder V as 900 at 0 dint and 1287 at 100 dint. That would put M at 3.87 (which isn't much different from the 3.5 it was at previously)

At the proposed 90 dint you mentioned without weapon would be that would put base dmg without club 1248 and 1366 with.

With no other MAB that would put dmg without a weapon at 1248 still and 1529 with... a 22% increase in dmg

With a more reasonable nuking amount of say 100 MAB (still a bit low for some jobs especially ya know the ones that can actually cast thunder V lol) would put the dmgs at 2496 no weapon and 2895 with... a little under 16% increase.

Even at as low as 0 dint and 0 mab without main/sub and getting the extra 5 mab from shield it's only a 32.3% increase on thunder V over no weapon/sub and given that magain staffs are 35% that means you'd basically need to be dual wielding 2 of these or have a negative dint for it to beat the dmg trial staffs on thunder V in terms of pure dmg. Lower nukes get a little fuzzier. And of course the macc is miles beyond the magic dmg staffs and even beyond what the macc staffs should be

[kenshyn]

Rumor going on that you can turn in the KI for gear?Isn't that just for delve bosses and not wilds ones????? Any one know about this and what you need to do if true???