Naakual - Notes, Strategies, confirmed drops~

[Toth]

Did Achuka on Cerberus with a lot of JPs yesterday. There are usually around 50ppl in zone, now there was 200ppl. And at least around 60 in the fight, probably more. A lot of Leviathans on Achuka. I mean a motherload. We finished in 40 minutes. And the col rate was at 40%+.

That's how Achuka went done on Sylph today. Colonization was at 40% as well. Mostly JPs with a lot of SMNs and BLMs. I came as PUP with augmented Ninzas, was getting decent hits in and 370-500 SPs. Ton of exp, bayld, and review bonuses as I was on of the few DDs staying alive thanks to constant Serenade healing. Honestly, without a constant healer like an automaton or a personal mule, DDs will not last long at all. In fact, there was another PUP and I and we died maybe once the entire time.

Also, to add, Achuka also has a nasty blaze spike effect and has some ability where it is temp invincible for a few seconds.

[NynJa]

I know that, but watching the stream doesn't seem so.

theyll obviously focus on their own LS members for buffs and heals...but they cant lock you out, and what are they gonna do? shout how youre an asshole and intruded on "their reive"?

[NightScope2142]

So after talking to some people on my server and reading threads it seems its common to get roughly 30k balyd for doing these bosses. My question is how does the evaluation work for boss areas? Are the bosses similar to roots in that if it isn't being attacked you will get no balyd for killing raptors? Seems like after update i can just zone in and farm Balyd til more people join on ninja?

[Kohan]

theyll obviously focus on their own LS members for buffs and heals...but they cant lock you out, and what are they gonna do? shout how youre an asshole and intruded on "their reive"?

Oh, I hope this is what the future brings, and that it's documented in fail screenshots. I can't wait.

[Shenrien]

Also, to add, Achuka also has a nasty blaze spike effect and has some ability where it is temp invincible for a few seconds.

It has a buff TP move that gives it a MAB, MDB, Blaze Spikes, Haste and a Stoneskin, all can be removed with Finale, idk about Dispel I have yet to see a rdm show up, or anyone /sch be bothered to swap into dark arts to cast it because they're usually more pre-occupied with casting cure, haste, and other buff rotations for when it aoe dispels, and who the hell would show up blm to anything but the shark..?

[Slycer]

So after talking to some people on my server and reading threads it seems its common to get roughly 30k balyd for doing these bosses. My question is how does the evaluation work for boss areas? Are the bosses similar to roots in that if it isn't being attacked you will get no balyd for killing raptors? Seems like after update i can just zone in and farm Balyd til more people join on ninja?

Like 99% sure the boss functions like roots or whatever do, so yeah, if the boss isn't being damaged, evaluations will be nil. We had a period of time on Tchakka after he did Marine Mayhem that there was very little damage for a couple of minutes until people recovered, and I don't remember getting many (any?) evaluations during that time. I could be wrong though. I have it logged, so I could check, may give it a look later.

[Jem]

So after talking to some people on my server and reading threads it seems its common to get roughly 30k balyd for doing these bosses. My question is how does the evaluation work for boss areas? Are the bosses similar to roots in that if it isn't being attacked you will get no balyd for killing raptors? Seems like after update i can just zone in and farm Balyd til more people join on ninja?

It's very job dependent though. Like when I did Colkhab on COR I only walked away with like 6k for the fight whilst others were getting 20k+. I think on Tchakka I got 9k whilst again the other got 20k+.

So whilst COR is good for cheating the -DT (which isn't an issue now), it's not good for points.

[Therin]

It has a buff TP move that gives it a MAB, MDB, Blaze Spikes, Haste and a Stoneskin, all can be removed with Finale, idk about Dispel I have yet to see a rdm show up, or anyone /sch be bothered to swap into dark arts to cast it because they're usually more pre-occupied with casting cure, haste, and other buff rotations for when it aoe dispels, and who the hell would show up blm to anything but the shark..?

Dispel works. The Stoneskin is about 10,000 HP, so it's worth spamming Dispel to remove it.

Like 99% sure the boss functions like roots or whatever do, so yeah, if the boss isn't being damaged, evaluations will be nil. We had a period of time on Tchakka after he did Marine Mayhem that there was very little damage for a couple of minutes until people recovered, and I don't remember getting many (any?) evaluations during that time. I could be wrong though. I have it logged, so I could check, may give it a look later.

Yep, functions the same as reives, so you can show up and leech a win from a group that's doing the NM simply by killing a few adds. Awesome! (Sarcasm.)

[zephr]

Just downed Achuka on Cerberus in about 90 minutes with 55-56% colonization in Morimar, here's some notes on Bayld. I was BRD/COR/SCH.

SCH got 28k Bayld back from a full fight of curing DDs.
COR got 17k from rolls and Water Shot / Wildfire every time it's up.
BRD got around 13k. Songs give little to no Bayld, but a good strategy is to Scherzo yourself and go get hit by the NM. You won't die and you can cure yourself.
DDs (RNG+DRK, Annihilator RNG using Coronach only and the DRK had Borealis) got 35k+36k. They were on full time with 3 Minuets/Chaos/Tactician's and I don't think they died once.

[dasva]

How much actually shooting you do when you used rng? subjob?

[Jem]

Our RNG's on Colkhab (68% colo ish I think) the other day said they only went through like 2-3 stacks, they absolutely tore it to pieces though. On Tchakka (30% Colo) they used like 15 stacks. No idea for Achuka as I wasn't there but it was a quick kill so I imagine slightly more than the Colkhab kill since Colkhab was presumably piercing weak (They were doing 2-4k Namas)

[zephr]

How much actually shooting you do when you used rng? subjob?

I wasn't the RNG but I'm sure he was shooting a lot as I saw him pop a lot of bullet pouches (didn't notice what kind sorry). Also I could probably have gotten a better score on my COR but I am a horrible COR so idk.

[dasva]

Wonder if it's worth it without tons of buffs (or just some nice def down on the mob)

[Jem]

I would imagine you'd have Acc issues without some sort of acc buff. I know every time we've done them RNG's have had Hunters or Preludes or both. Colkhab in particular was really bad to the point where they stopped shooting until the BRD got out there.

[Rocl]

BRD got around 13k. Songs give little to no Bayld,

Just to emphasize this point, I'm pretty sure I read/heard somewhere songs give no bayld/exp in an effort to avert another campaign leech fiasco.

Also that I made like 13k on SMN doing Tchakka and thought I was hotshit. Fuck, man. On BLM on Achuka I was late to the party, but only made ~7-8k; but I was focused on damaging the Naakual itself during both fights so...

[Squah]

So with the lowered costs inc and having 125k bayld stored up, what would be best for me to go on? I have Vere MNK, Nares BLM and Apoc DRK. Assuming DRK/SAM would be best but maybe BLM for shark?

[banggugyangu]

I know that, but watching the stream doesn't seem so.

The proper way to do it is to remember these few things:

1: bring your own source of reraise. There's a high risk of death, and you shouldn't expect a group out there to risk wiping just to raise a lone person. They still might, but try to be self-sufficient.

2: If you risk pulling hate, position yourself in a manner where doing so won't cause any negative consequence to the group. This is especially for their mages. Don't accidentally MPK their WHMs and they will be happy.

3: If you're going as a PLD, bring a pocket healer. Another group probably won't mind another tank showing up, but they probably won't even consider healing you. They have their own group to worry about.

4: No one will turn away extra heals. WHM and SMN are solid choices to show up as a random loner to a wildskeeper reive.

[Zumi]

Is there any way to tell when someone is fighting these so you don't waste your key item?

[NightScope2142]

I would imagine you'd have Acc issues without some sort of acc buff. I know every time we've done them RNG's have had Hunters or Preludes or both. Colkhab in particular was really bad to the point where they stopped shooting until the BRD got out there.

From the update

An issue wherein the accuracy on the ranged attack will decrease if the player's level is lower than the monster's level.

Hopefully this makes it so RNG doesn't need to be super buffed to hit.

[Slycer]

When you're able to get back into the game, post here with your KI cost as well as your fame level (mithra NPC near statue in Eastern) and coalition ranks so we can try to figure out how the cost reduction works. Thanks!