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  1. #161
    Sea Torques
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    So we confirmed that 5k reduction is max to the current stage!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chichicha View Post
    So we confirmed that 5k reduction is max to the current stage!?
    For now.

    May theoretically increase when more ranks are added in the future.

  3. #163
    Ridill
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    I'd imagine once people rank up more coalitions it might go down too. But that's going to be awhile especially with a lot of people just spamming ones they capped for greater rewards

  4. #164
    Nikkei's Hoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I'd imagine once people rank up more coalitions it might go down too. But that's going to be awhile especially with a lot of people just spamming ones they capped for greater rewards
    That's what's keeping me torn at the moment. Extra balyd for naakul spam or ranking up multiple coalitions is a pretty difficult trade off to decide.

  5. #165
    D. Ring
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    I've heard it's possible to get like 30k bayld from the fight itself, so if it is eventually reduced quite a bit by the time there's rank 8 you might earn a lot of the remainder back just from that.

  6. #166
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    friend of mine got 43k just holding adds on PLD for 90% of the fight during tchaaka.

  7. #167
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    SE needs to adjust Bayld return in WK reives. You get fucking punished for actually contributing to the fight.

    Melee's doing nothing but PULLING mobs (not even adds, just mobs that are too far out to even aggro) will get more bayld return than someone whos actually fighting the NM.

  8. #168
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    I fought Tchaaka on SMN and walked away with less than 10k total from the entire battle and teh SMNs there were the main dmg sources. I was there for 100-0. It's bs that an Ochain PLD can just sit there and cast Phalanx occasionally and be 40% towards his next KI.

  9. #169
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistrianna View Post
    I fought Tchaaka on SMN and walked away with less than 10k total from the entire battle and teh SMNs there were the main dmg sources. I was there for 100-0. It's bs that an Ochain PLD can just sit there and cast Phalanx occasionally and be 40% towards his next KI.
    Wait the pld just sat there unengaged casting phalanx? Didn't even cleave or anything?

  10. #170
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Wait the pld just sat there unengaged casting phalanx? Didn't even cleave or anything?
    no they can literally pull 5-6 mobs, tuck away in a corner, and easily hit quota every minute, for doing fuck all. They'll probably get more xp by cleaving, but you also run the risk a lot more TP moves coming your way. As long as you're getting an eval every min, you're maxing out whatevers possible.


    Like I said, you actually get PUNISHED for contributing in the long run. its really fucking bullshit

  11. #171
    Ridill
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    I know what I'm bringing to reive lol

  12. #172
    Lostbane
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    Not sure if it was imprs or ranking up in the Pioneers to max but I'm max there and one ran up in the Scouts and finally got the discount

  13. #173
    Ridill
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    So finally got my 5th rank up in coalitions (disciple in 1 max in another) and still 100k. Haven't done all the quests though missed a couple. I do have capped fame though. Someone in ls says he only got 2 rank ups and has it at 95k

  14. #174
    E. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistrianna View Post
    I fought Tchaaka on SMN and walked away with less than 10k total from the entire battle and teh SMNs there were the main dmg sources. I was there for 100-0. It's bs that an Ochain PLD can just sit there and cast Phalanx occasionally and be 40% towards his next KI.
    Yeah, I did the same on Colkhab and I got about the same (~10k). It's pretty bullshit. Achuka wasn't quite as bad (I think I got closer to 17k) since Leviathan has a useful Ward to spam.

  15. #175
    Ridill
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    So finally got price down to 95k. Happened right after I finished Orobon appetite for my last survival skill. Might be coincidenece it was that one thought or just finishing another quest. Done 35/42 now

  16. #176
    Yoshi P
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    Chocaliztli Boots and Mask for me and my alt off of Tchakka today.. pretty easy fight. Only thing of note is its AOE KO WS that kills everyone within about 20 yalms. It can be stunned, but it builds resist.

    Took an hour and a half to take down. Easy to damage, BLMs, SMNs and CORs take it out well.

  17. #177
    Old Merits
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    Just a note on Tchakka: MDT appears to help with the aoe KO move. We had an aegis pld show up and I don't recall him dying once to the move. Melees that got caught in hybrid or mdt sets survived at noticeably higher rates than those without. Also, if the move doesn't kill you, it does magic dmg instead.

  18. #178
    Yoshi P
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    Oh, that's interesting.. good to know! I believe our PLDs tanked with Ochain.

    Perhaps it deals a set amount of magic damage and if that amount is over your current HP, you just get KO'd. Should be easy to test.

  19. #179
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    So maybe its just a high magic damage aoe version of tyrant tusk?

  20. #180
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    Perhaps, I think I was taking about 1k dmg with capped MDT. If it has it's MAB move up you can just about guarantee everyone but the aegis is going to die though. Our blm said it was dispellable, so it may be a way to keep everyone alive longer.

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