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    Quote Originally Posted by BadKarma View Post
    Guys check your fucking privilege and give us some trigger warnings. God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Agree with this guy 100%, and kudos to him for presenting the argument in such a logical and rational way. I'd be pissed if I was paying for hours of the gym I was legally not allowed to attend for. Equality means equality, and "take your dollars elsewhere" is not an acceptable solution. I suppose Rosa Parks should have just "took her dollars" to another bus instead of expecting to be able to sit where she wanted.

    Ignore the problem and the problem persists; it doesn't go away just because you "man up" and take it.
    I actually like this a lot. Put in the context of a "black people only" (or white, or brown, or yellow, or whatever) gym on certain days and during certain hours, people would lose their goddamn minds about how prejudiced and stupid that is. There's just as much justification for limiting by race as is their is by sex.

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    Man imagine if they were black female muslims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    I looked into this issue as well and the issue is actually what you're counting as "Women only" periods. He states that the gym denies men access for 442h annually. He is ambiguous about where they are banned, the duration, and the frequency (The former will become prominent soon). You state his figure is grossly exaggerated since the sessions occur for 90min, roughly, and at a weekly frequency.
    No, I never stated that the figure was exaggerated. I simply pointed out that using the hour figure makes it look larger than "every Thursday from 6:00PM until 7:30PM" does. It's a commonly used spin tactic. Anything else that you endeavored to prove in the article's favor is meaningless, as I already stated that I agree that there should not be a period reserved for women when men pay the same amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    A man mistreating a woman is not mysogny unless the reason she was mistreated was solely because she was a woman. Kohan, you are not retarded please stop.
    I don't see how your comment regarding misogyny is related at all. It's correct, but what does it have to do with anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    These videos CLEARLY point out that the reason the men are not helped is because they are men and you can pretend these attitudes are not pervasive through Western society at large but we both know you're full of shit and just trying to deflect.
    I understand that you believe such a view is "full of shit," but I prefer well-researched and properly presented arguments to spin and anecdotes. I always have. It's why I ignored other people when they told me they'd kill me if I ever dated someone of color, and why I've openly and physically defended people from abuse, even when it's nearly cost me my life. A situation like this is no different. An extreme anti-feminist will do what you've done—specifically, they'll take such videos, and say that "because what happens here happens at all, it happens everywhere, and therefore proves my point"—which is identical to what radical feminists do in relation to men. It's two sides of the same coin: extremism. It's intellectually dishonest, and valueless to anyone discerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blubbartron View Post
    I actually like this a lot. Put in the context of a "black people only" (or white, or brown, or yellow, or whatever) gym on certain days and during certain hours, people would lose their goddamn minds about how prejudiced and stupid that is. There's just as much justification for limiting by race as is their is by sex.
    Not that a gym is just as important, but isn't affirmative action an example of "black people only" (and also latino, asian, women only, etc.)?

    I think it might be better to ask when does or doesn't preferential treatment to one group or another make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Man imagine if they were black female muslims?
    with dicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    Not that a gym is just as important, but isn't affirmative action an example of "black people only" (and also latino, asian, women only, etc.)?

    I think it might be better to ask when does or doesn't preferential treatment to one group or another make sense.
    That's essentially the question, but it's also impossible to answer. Which is why we generally deal with stuff like this on a case-by-case basis.

    Prejudice, preference, and precedence don't exist in a vacuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohan View Post
    No, I never stated that the figure was exaggerated. I simply pointed out that using the hour figure makes it look larger than "every Thursday from 6:00PM until 7:30PM" does. It's a commonly used spin tactic. Anything else that you endeavored to prove in the article's favor is meaningless, as I already stated that I agree that there should not be a period reserved for women when men pay the same amount.
    I had a more significant response, but I'll settle for these questions instead. Do you agree that the amount of women-only sessions is in fact more than the one session you stated? Why do you think my post was about being "for the article" when I stated the author's figure was slightly inaccurate as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohan View Post
    No, and none of the links nor videos you've provided are of intellectual value.
    That first video has absolutely spectacular comedic value, though.

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    "So we're to believe that the goat is gonna hurt him. It goes into the room in an intimidating manner, closes the door behind him, and then the man gets scared. I'm glad we can laugh at something like that; if a woman was getting scared that someone or something may hurt her, then that would be no laughing matter."


    This shit is fucking golden.

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    HOLY FUCKING SHIT HE THREW IN A CLIP FROM THIS:



    In his montage of violence against men in commercials. That... was fucking fantastic. I watched the whole thing. 9001/10, would get trolled again.

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    I miss you Yugl, you're my boy.

    Also, you really can't even tune in to most sitcoms or watch commercials without catching some form of the man being the (negative stereotype) with the woman (strong independent) action towards him. I feel like I'm being trolled any time I actually turn the TV on.

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    That's just anecdotal, bro.
    Your experiences have no place in this thread. Maybe it would be different if you were a woman though.

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    Summary:
    - Females can't experience the feeling of being grateful
    - Females always look at short-term benefits rather than at long-term benefits
    - Females interact with males only for potential benefits they see from the male
    - Benefits can be broken down into more than just financial gain. Doesn't make the woman less superficial
    - Think about the females gain before entering a relationship
    - Even if you're married or w/e a woman will dump you for a male with more benefit

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    Libertarians are weird.

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    Thats some mgtow level stuff right there

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