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[Arthars]

We've only ever seen 1 100% bead message so far in all our pops so either we've been really unlucky or it's a really shitty rate.

yea but if you do it the ejin way, just pop and die, and repeat. you saved fighting and that makes it actually fasten bead rate for shitty NMs like kurma/scorpion where you definately need more than 5-10 mins to kill

so i assume the "You feel a pressure surrounding you" similar msg is the 100% bead?

good to know gotta try on kurma next farm time O_O

Is a RDM required for sticking Blind/Blind II on the peiste, or would a SCH with enfeebling+ gear/Klimaform/Voidstorm/maybe Focalization be able to land it regularly without Elemental Seal? My last run had a clearly underleveled/undergeared RDM who couldn't stick enfeebles at all so I'm thinking about gearing up my SCH to handle blind and stun.

Also, what barspell would be best to lessen the damage of Calcifying Mist? Barwatera?

from what i heard, a decent RDM can blind it 1/3 attempts and a career rdm, if theres still any out there, can land 90-100% of time with magian mag acc staff

[Jem]

I wouldn't do the pop and die method purely because of how shitty the message rate is for us. Like I said, we've literally seen it once and we've been killing NM's basically every night since update.

We could have just been really unlucky though. How many pops does it usually take you Ejin?

[Helel]

We've never seen the message. We got bead 1/5 off gnat, 1/1 off chapuli, and 1/3 off scorpion when we were farming beads last night. Drop rate hasn't been too horrible for us.

I think /NIN would really speed scorpion up if shadows block his move. Could even have RDM go RDM/NIN for dia 3 spam when step message appears.

[EjinCaitsith]

I'd say it's 1/20 at worst, but it's been more around 1/10 for us. They depop fairly fast, can probably pop 10 in the time it takes to kill 1 w/o message, assuming you have enough shards.

Drop rate on bead, however, has been absolutely horrifying for us w/o message. Outside of week 1, when we went 1/1 on all the morimar beads, it has taken us at least 10+ kills to get beads w/o message most of the time.

The message is: "You feel a tense pressure gripping the air."

[Arthars]

well, we only managed 4 kurma an hour including farming triggers in between....and only 1 bead for 3 hours today ; ;

if the rate of getting the message isnt bad, i would do it tbh for kurma

but yea, i hear yer....i think this is only the first time i saw this msg, and its from another group.... all i always see is "A monster appear..."

The message is: "You feel a tense pressure gripping the air."

ah damnit thats the message the ninja pop group got ; ;

if NM reset after popper die, does 20 mins reset?

[noodles355]

Is a RDM required for sticking Blind/Blind II on the peiste, or would a SCH with enfeebling+ gear/Klimaform/Voidstorm/maybe Focalization be able to land it regularly without Elemental Seal?

Sch can land it without klimaform, nor voidstorm, nor focalization, nor a Magians Macc staff.

Chatoyant Staff, Capped Skill, Grimoire and a decent gear set should be enough. A decent Enfeeb set doesn't even take up any inventory. I think the only pure-enfeebling piece I have on me that I don't use for other things is AF3+2 legs. Other great enfeeb pieces like rubeus hands and feet I already carry for fast cast and enhancing.

[Fake]

I've seen 7 pressure messages in maybe 90 matamatas. I've seen 16 beads drop from it in total now (mixture of /thf and thf main).

20min timer does not reset if its allowed to go idle.

[Malithar]

Did some Pieste runs last night and noticed a few damage spikes (reg attacks with GA shooting up to 800-900 compared to normal 500ish) throughout the fights. I wasn't particuarly paying attention to what was going on as its been pretty well established as an easy zerg fight with blind + stuns. The two instances I found in my log were only 2-3 attacks each with the increased damage. Asked a JP friend and he claimed he had been told that casting light spells or light SCs (while it absorbs the damage) after it uses Holy II, or thunder spells after it -gas greatly increases its +DT for a few sec. Any truth to this? And if not, anyone else experience short periods of large +DT?

[macross]

/nin works great on scorp, the key is putting debufs on it soon as you see the msg wear. If samba does indeed work nin/dnc it up. The stun eats 2-3 shadows.
But like I said one ochain pld who can't get stunned is key to dia it right away.
Drk/nin is great dps on this since you can LR without any casting pentalies like sam would get with hasso.

don't think we've ever gotten a msg lol. But we don't fight NM more than 5-6 in a row usually.

[Taint]

What killed your pld ? And that's like 2-3 times more dmg than Tojil take from rng.

I wish I was paying better attention. Was very late for me and I was trying to play RNG with almost no macros. I think he got ST20ed and wasn't sacraficed fast enough.

It was a very slapped together trial run. We were taking the bee down very fast until the PLD died.

[ccl]

Okay thx

[Fake]

Did some Pieste runs last night and noticed a few damage spikes (reg attacks with GA shooting up to 800-900 compared to normal 500ish) throughout the fights. I wasn't particuarly paying attention to what was going on as its been pretty well established as an easy zerg fight with blind + stuns. The two instances I found in my log were only 2-3 attacks each with the increased damage. Asked a JP friend and he claimed he had been told that casting light spells or light SCs (while it absorbs the damage) after it uses Holy II, or thunder spells after it -gas greatly increases its +DT for a few sec. Any truth to this? And if not, anyone else experience short periods of large +DT?

Are you wearing 2 or more pieces of AF3+2, if yes then you have your answer

[Malithar]

Are you wearing 2 or more pieces of AF3+2, if yes then you have your answer

That shits so easy to forget about lol, thanks. XD Is there any truth to what my JP friend said then? Searched this thread, and I found a posting saying that they came across a JP group that was doing exactly as described, but saw no follow up.

[Generic]

As for the Craklaw I have a theory tho it may be incorrect. I saw someone post about doing SC + MB and then being able to dmg it for a few sec. The last time we fought this I noticed that when I was using Mura and all the other DD were hitting for 0 they would until I Shoha'd or the BLM/GEO would nuke then the same thing the DD's would dmg for a moment till dmg fell to 0. I believe this fight has to be balanced where it has a physical dmg cap that if you reach it will begin to take 0 dmg from physical attacks until magic dmg opens dmg in the opposite direction. I'd assume the same is also true for magic dmg. Just an observation. Don't know if anyone had any other experiences. I'd say take a few mura sam's to keep the dmg away from the phys cap (if there is one) as long as possible

[dasva]

Spam some breath dmg to confuse it!

[shepardG]

inb4 all the nm's have the same mechanics as matamata but with varying TP resets that have confused us, so we haven't recognized them.

[ronin sparthos]

Quick question:

Is Supernal Chapuli is doable inside the fracture with 6 easily?

[grevenilvec75]

Guy claims to have 3-boxed it, so if you have 6 people who arent retarded, sure.

[Michelob]

I know you mentioned it few times already, but it seems the true key to the fight is making it only use Emetic Discharge. If it starts using anything other than that, you'll start seeing damage go down and evasion go up. Having 2-3 people dedicated to only debuffing it would probably be the most important aspect of the fight. WHM standing close in Afflatus Misery spamming Esuna is also pretty helpful to limit the time DDs are slowed if any happen to go off.

As for scorp, It's far too annoying/infuriating to kill over and over, so we just started having 1 person pop/die until we get the 100% bead message. There are plenty of butterflies in the area to farm shards or could buy them off AH since they are fairly cheap.

On that note: If you let a NM with message go passive, you get the message again when you reclaim it.

Was your popper in the alliance? We just got a message doing that method with the popper outside, he died as we invited him and as we engaged we got a message saying the pressure dissipated. Killed and no drop.

[EjinCaitsith]

Was your popper in the alliance? We just got a message doing that method with the popper outside, he died as we invited him and as we engaged we got a message saying the pressure dissipated. Killed and no drop.

The person popping was in the same alliance as everyone else, so everyone got the message on pop. I don't believe any of the NMs have actual alliance hate, but for some reason if you stand too close to the person sacing, the NM can still randomly aggro you. We had everyone stand 15+ away from the person sacing and had no problems with aggro.