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**Jem** · 2013-05-24 23:45

We did Butterfly and Chapuli as the unlocked one. We're thinking of switching Chapuli though because it takes us like 9-10 mins and we had deaths on it today >_>

Not sure on exact time left. It set us to 5 mins left on kill but we had longer than that. Everything else in the zone depops on Boss kill for what it's worth. I know you guys will know that but don't think it's been said before for everyone elses benefit.

I really think on a good run you could possibly do 3-4 NM's + Boss. Could definitely do 3 + NM on a clean run anyway.

**ccl** · 2013-05-24 23:50

Yeah seriously Chapuli took as pretty much as long as bee and more death as for Tojil, yeah we only lost to it cause of thing we didn't expect or human error.

**macross** · 2013-05-24 23:54

Everyone's going on vacation for us for a week lol so we'll try to do another run tonight.

**ccl** · 2013-05-24 23:56

Good luck post some drop screenshot !

**Jem** · 2013-05-24 23:57

We have 2 Tojil sets still but not sure what we are doing tomorrow. I think that's on the agenda. So hopefully we'll either kill it or at the very least drop it to like 10% or something. We'll see though since obviously mob behaviour changes at lower HP.

**macross** · 2013-05-25 00:06

oh so did any of your guys buy anything and see if KI poofs lol?

gonna try but its getting late so dunno how well we'll do haha.

**Jem** · 2013-05-25 00:17

Nobody has yet but someone was talking about going farming to buy PA I think. So will probably know within a day.

**Ranth** · 2013-05-25 01:06

Blah, 13% Tojil. Maybe next time I guess.

**macross** · 2013-05-25 01:06

2nd try 13% oh well. Almost lol.

Looking at the parse it should have been a win on any other day sigh. One ranger using ruzsor arrows, one was 2 boxing cause we were short and he slacked on dmg, other one died aroudn 50% so lost a big chunk of dps when he dbl weaked hehe. Unless it goes crazy under 10% of course. Those 3 things fixed and it should have died ah well.

**Arthars** · 2013-05-25 04:55

Ranger fantasy all over again ; ;

Time for me to make a bow at least.... Since im gotta make gkt mythic..

Atm im only geared in drk n seem im the deadweight!!!

**NynJa** · 2013-05-25 07:08

Didnt matsui say that he wanted to get away from zerg fights consisting of high dmg aoe mobs? Lol

**Taint** · 2013-05-25 08:30

Originally Posted by NynJa

Didnt matsui say that he wanted to get away from zerg fights consisting of high dmg aoe mobs? Lol

15min boss fights sounds about right to me. Delve is pretty well made content. There is definitely a skill/learning curve. Gear is obtainable a few different ways and even the way you fight NMs can be dictated by skill/gear/setup.

**Damane** · 2013-05-25 09:48

Originally Posted by NynJa

Didnt matsui say that he wanted to get away from zerg fights consisting of high dmg aoe mobs? Lol

i wouldnt call 15 min fight a zerg, when you have to sacrifice some dummy to manage hate because the fight takes more then 1-2 min

**Jem** · 2013-05-25 09:49

Bee doesn't really have that high damaging AoE. It's not like it oneshots DD's or anything. It's just preferable to keep hate on your tanks.

RNG's are generally just better damage than melees on it. They also have the added advantage of not getting hit and being easier/safer for buffers to keep buffs up on.

For reference, before I died I was 3rd in the parse as DRK/SAM. I would have probably come 2nd or 3rd if I hadn't died. By the time I unweakened though, it was just pointless me doing anything. I spent like 8 mins dead/weakened (Reraised from own RR > Died to AoE during animation > Arise > Died to AoE hit + Poison aura > reraised) and RNG's had taken off huge swathes of HP in that time. By the time I got fully rebuffed, it was essentially already dead.

If you wanted to, you could use melees and probably still win. It would be more difficult but still manageable for Bee at least.

**NynJa** · 2013-05-25 10:54

Im not complaining, its nice to see rngs gettin some <3 after being in the doghouse for 6 yrs

**Arthars** · 2013-05-25 11:12

well...........apparantly JP found an easy way out IF you can conjure up 10 super PUPs with ranged auomation

PLD PLD SCH SCH WHM WHM, PUP x5 COR, PUPx5 COR, locking peiste/turtle/eft or raptor(unsure)

basically a foolproof win method.........

someone on odin already shouting to buy peiste bead for 20m to speed through things

**Jem** · 2013-05-25 11:21

EDIT: Nvm reading comprehension fail. NM's locked out make it obvious which boss you mean.

**Kujah2010** · 2013-05-25 11:25

So its basically "RNG or PUP Fantasy" XI now? xD

**Kujah2010** · 2013-05-25 11:31

On a side note, RMT have been considering some cheese of our own and taking 1x RNG pt and 1x BLU pt, just sit back and afk myself on SCH til it dies!

**Taint** · 2013-05-25 11:37

Originally Posted by Arthars

well...........apparantly JP found an easy way out IF you can conjure up 10 super PUPs with ranged auomation

PLD PLD SCH SCH WHM WHM, PUP x5 COR, PUPx5 COR, locking peiste/turtle/eft or raptor(unsure)

basically a foolproof win method.........

someone on odin already shouting to buy peiste bead for 20m to speed through things

Don't know a thing about PUP what makes them better then Relic RNG? Depop for hate reset?

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