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[macross]

pups could also dispel his shell most likely as well. But yeah it might be possible lol 10x pup vs 6x rng. Need someone to browse their version of BG and see if any ss or proof hehe. Rather not waste beads.

But I'll try and see if can bring some pups on bead farming runs, to see how well they do.

If it really does work I forsee alternator nerfs incoming!

[NynJa]

JUst reading this it seems like "on paper this seems to be a good idea" but in practice just doesnt go as planned.

[shepardG]

Inb4 targeting the captain!

[ronin sparthos]

Inb4 targeting the captain!

lol, I need to do this shit again after 4+ years.

Gathering up a group of people who know how to PUP properly is probably equally as daunting as summoning up an army of Relic RNGs at this point.

[Taim Meich]

Just for reference, I did the Delve Jagil the other day as PUP, and my automaton had a 100% hit rate on ranged attacks, plus a 88% hit rate on melee attacks. I was meleeing too so I wasn't using any automaton-boosting piece that hindered my own performance. Armor Shatterers were very consistent, averaging 2300. Had I used full automaton-boosting equipment, melee acc would have capped, and Sancho would have gained quite some haste and more attack.

I know it's lolPugil, but people don't invite me on PUP on other stuff so I can only offer this parse!


On Tojil, I'd definitely send the automaton into melee range, its TP gain without meleeing it its really mediocre. An army of properly geared RNGs should do better, but it's definitely cheaper to get a good PUP geared for it... Although learning to play it properly is another story. It's not rocket science, but it's not point and shoot like some other jobs, either.

[CoreyX]

I knew one day PUP would have its day in the sun. lolpup no more!

[Toth]

I love this. I mean really :D

[dasva]

I knew one day PUP would have its day in the sun. lolpup no more!

Not really I mean it's still planning to do half as much dmg... just people hoping it's alot easier to find decent pups vs relic rngs

[Taim Meich]

Will be lolPUP in the mentality of most players for a long time, but at least it finally got a serious damage buff. The master is still struggling really hard on the acc department, with Sole Sushi and Madrigalx2 I had around 80% acc. Should have TPd in AF2+2 feet instead of Thaumas, for example (no Usu+1 feet which would have been better), but with that and a few other tweaks I wouldn't have capped without important sacrifices.

Can't wait for the DEX -> Acc and STR -> Att adjustment on next version update!

[ccl]

Even if it work, it's harder to find decent pup than 4 relic rng.

[Cyprias]

Isn't there some rule where you can only have 3 automatons out per party?

EDIT: I remember something about this when ToAU came out, not sure if it's still the case.

EDIT2: Yeah double checked, disregard this.

[CoreyX]

Automatons are not Adventuring Fellow NPCs

[Jem]

Even if it work, it's harder to find decent pup than 4 relic rng.

Can probably find the PUPs, might struggle to find ones who have the Automaton skilled up though!

[Mafai]

Did anyone else have accuracy issues on the bee? We went in there and under estimated it. We we're pretty much only able to hit it when feint was on and timed out.

PLD PLD WHM WHM RDM SCH
RNG RNG RNG RNG COR BRD
RNG RNG RNG THF COR BRD

RNG PTS had Minuetsx5 2 Preludes STR Etude + Hunters + Chaos + Tact + Coursers Full time.

My build was 73 racc + AM Acc. Other rangers had more, and had the same issues.

Our next plans are to bring a SMN in for evasion down and GEO for evasion down. Also, what about the shadows that happen every 25% (it seemed to be 25%, maybe something else triggered it)?

One theory in my head is that its possible you can lock the zone in the high evasion phase by killing your final mob while its about to mode change. I couldn't believe we were only hitting 20-40% accuracy on it. We killed the bee barely before it was about to change into high evasion mode. We call out the stages so we store TP during it for when it wears (unless we get grav / feint on during it).

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[NynJa]

I knew one day PUP would have its day in the sun. lolpup no more!

This is still theorized, it hasnt been done...so yeah, lolpup

[Jem]

Ohai guyz

[ccl]

Pup made that very easy.

[Toth]

Pup made that very easy.

I wish that's true

[Guitarman]

Fuck I want that H2H.

[Darkmagi]

Trolling or for real on the pup thing?lol grats btw!