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**Fival** · 2013-05-26 01:01

Just an FYI if it wasn't already mentioned, you do not lose the KI if you buy equipment despite it being temporary, bought helm and still have KI and am able to buy more Tojil items.

**Prothescar** · 2013-05-26 01:34

Dope.

**Diomer** · 2013-05-26 01:42

Originally Posted by Fival

Just an FYI if it wasn't already mentioned, you do not lose the KI if you buy equipment despite it being temporary, bought helm and still have KI and am able to buy more Tojil items.

That's pretty awesome... However, it's also bad news for the synth materials that come from the respective mobs.

**dasva** · 2013-05-26 01:48

Originally Posted by Diomer

That's pretty awesome... However, it's also bad news for the synth materials that come from the respective mobs.

True some will buy instead of going for boss again... but 200k is alot so lss capable of taking them down might still do it for awhile. Plus +2s and synth mats to sell etc. Hopefully some might even start mercing slots for wins

**Fival** · 2013-05-26 01:50

Maybe not that bad, considering the bosses are probably the best way to farm plasm at 30k a kill plus the prior NMs in the run.

**Arthars** · 2013-05-26 01:52

no +2s ; ;

but seeing no one was in the SS, its obviously a RNG PT :D

grats!

**Cyprias** · 2013-05-26 01:55

Originally Posted by Diomer

That's pretty awesome... However, it's also bad news for the synth materials that come from the respective mobs.

In a way, but if you can continuously kill it, there's no reason not to kill it when the run gives you the most plasm over any other type of run.

Edit: Beaten

**Diomer** · 2013-05-26 01:58

Originally Posted by Cyprias

In a way, but if you can continuously kill it, there's no reason not to kill it when the run gives you the most plasm over any other type of run.

Edit: Beaten

There is actually; bead farming is beyond terrible sometimes. However, I'm sure you could merc spots for a fortune.

**Fival** · 2013-05-26 02:01

Also, Yaoyotl Gloves are 165k, not 170k.

**Prothescar** · 2013-05-26 02:05

I anticipate that boss kills will still be very desirable; you can't buy a lot of weapons via plasm because they're crafted from the synth materials, and two of the crafted weapons just happen to be for the two most popular DD jobs.

**Arthars** · 2013-05-26 02:08

Originally Posted by Diomer

There is actually; bead farming is beyond terrible sometimes. However, I'm sure you could merc spots for a fortune.

yea... im actually more surprised how u guys spitting out so many beads to attempt boss than killing the boss itself...

after 3 weeks i finally got 2 beads for each NM... matamata/eft/turtle... and now we ended up going to seal peiste and raptor instead so its beading all over again ; ;

**Prothescar** · 2013-05-26 02:09

Curious, why seal the Raptor over the Eft? Eft has always seemed like far more of a pain in the ass

**Arthars** · 2013-05-26 02:20

i also thought so but both are close... and eft infact is easier than raptor ; ;

during the 30 sec phase of mobs gaining double damage, raptor can potentially kill people

also seeing jem's death i assume he was the sacrificial lamb for decoy shot, which makes my friend's point valid:

does it work way better if you use DRG for it? angon and super jump.......

**Kaisha** · 2013-05-26 03:13

Originally Posted by dasva

but 200k is alot so lss capable of taking them down might still do it for awhile.

200k isn't really that much for any LS who's capable of killing the bosses reliably though since multiplied plasm reward will add up quick. The only real time sink is getting the beads to drop for the NMs that just waste too much time inside to bother killing.

Thread makes me want to get Alternator for my lolPUP regardless of its usability against Delve NMs.

**Dngnhack** · 2013-05-26 03:18

Who knows what will happen once sam get geared with the boss ra/ex GKT since the difference between it and delve weapons is roughly equal to difference between delve and r/e/m.

ex 99 Masamune dmg 132 -> Delve 192 -> delve boss 243

**Jem** · 2013-05-26 03:54

I wasn't Decoy Shotted at all for the record. This is what happened to me right at the end from pulling hate through melee damage.

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...09ebc8aeb4.jpg

Also reiterating what Arthars said, Eft is the easiest NM in there. Least it is for us anyway.

**Arthars** · 2013-05-26 04:02

Originally Posted by Prothescar

Curious, why seal the Raptor over the Eft? Eft has always seemed like far more of a pain in the ass

for eft, aura + regen V and occasional aoe cure IV from 1 sch is enough to keep PT alive since eft does not have a spike damage unlike raptor, which can TA you during the 30 sec buff period 1 shotting anyone

not to mention 1 out of 18 people who didnt understand "do not use magic damage" on raptor will screw up PT big time

**macross** · 2013-05-26 04:05

Grats guys. Can tell they not using pups, just look at the low rng hps lol.

But yeah if you've fought the t-rex you should know what to do, I'm confident we can already kill it, heck should have that 2nd run already. Just sad it's memorial day thus peeps gone for a few days, some for a whole week.

Beads we farmed 2 sets in 2 days, guess just lucky. We did get 2 msgs though, never got them before.

Great news about the KI not poofing. Still shall save my points to buy h2h and helm haha. But my Ochain almost done, can easily farm pts soon.

As for bee, I posted you need alot of acc, should have listened!

And no +2, that's kinda lame. Did you guys bounty shot!!??

Sadly even with delve gkt, you can't really fight the t-rex due to lahar safely. Maybe sam could shoot it lol?

Unless hard pressed for gil, doubt we would ever merc slots out. We got over 18 peeps anyways, plenty still need KI. Would you trust some pickup random to not fuck up? Maybe if they brought a full set of beads though and paid. But then again these fights will be too trivial once REM update hits.

**Jem** · 2013-05-26 04:26

Mercing slots out for Tojil will be harder than Bee anyway. We were extremely tight on time (30 secs remaining). I expect times will improve but they would need to improve a lot before it would be safe to drop a slot. We'd merc out for Bee if we got an offer than made it worthwhile.

And yeah we feel the same about members missing Macross! We always build up sets midweek but we can't use them until the weekend due to people being missing.

Bead Farming isn't too bad though. We usually just spam an NM until we get 1-2 beads and then move onto the next. They seem to be like a 20-25% drop rate with TH so it's not too bad. Even on the worst NM's it's like an hour per bead unless you get screwed on drops (distinctly possible).

**Arthars** · 2013-05-26 04:33

beads arent hard to get for lesser/meleeable/zergable NMs..........like eft,mata,raptor and peiste

but for turtle.. even a 10-12 min battle + farming trigger between is brutal and could waste a night......

we gave up fighting turtle unless its a 100% drop message one now.... went 1/3 yest for message, LUCK HAS ARRIVED!?

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